Breastfeeding: the next civil right?

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Do you feel the same way about revealing clothing, vulgar slogans and logos, and religous apparel?

Yes, I think people should be respectful in the areas you mentionned as well. I just like to think that people can be careful about these things without the need for legislation. I think people can be respectful on their own. I would hope that people would have good manners on their own and if an offensive situation did arise, that it could be resolved amicably. I would hope that legislation would not be required because I don't believe in excessive legislation.

[:) Smiley]

Some, like California, give women the right to breastfeed "in any location, public or private, except the private home … of another"; the mother may sue if breastfeeding is denied.

If I have yet to see anyone exercising this right for 2 years in Berkeley, clearly this is not the big issue that ya all are making it out to be. There don't seem to be many exhibitionists when it comes to this.

[Patroklos]

long as the person is attractive

No, I didn't.

I see no reason why having the toilets and urinals in the resturant can't be sanitary. They are supposed to keep everything clean anyways. Perhaps this will be incentive to finally have clean public johns. If your premise is that it is an unavoidable natural funtion that must be prformed, then they can not be seperated. Unless that seperation is simple you don't want to see my white ass of smell my ****, which is a vanity decision similar to me not wanting to see your maggot fed.

[Spiffor]

The Diplomat:
It appears you believe in Common Sense. But common sense is something not universally shared in our modern societies. What appears as something obviously polite to you, may appear as something superfluous / useless / stupid to somebody else. "Common Sense" is an unsaid rule; and when there are so many people, it's better when rules are said.

Among examples: it's not impolite in China to chew with an open mouth, or speak while eating. It's very impolite in Arabic countries to give a thumbs up. And it's "common sense" there, just as strongly as it isn't in the west.

These differences are not only cultural, but can be individual as well. For example, I personally see no moral problem with sleeping with other women than my partner. My gf sees a HUGE moral problem with it (she's definitely not the kind of having open relationships, while I am). We cleared it out right at the beginning, and fidelity is a golden rule in our couple. I'm glad it is not an untold one

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Patroklos


No, I didn't.

I see no reason why having the toilets and urinals in the resturant can't be sanitary. They are supposed to keep everything clean anyways. Perhaps this will be incentive to finally have clean public johns. If your premise is that it is an unavoidable natural funtion that must be prformed, then they can not be seperated. Unless that seperation is simple you don't want to see my white ass of smell my ****, which is a vanity decision similar to me not wanting to see your maggot fed.

You don't see why ****ing at the dinner table is unsanitary? That's lovely.

[Patroklos]

I do of course, find it offensive and disgusting. Me finding it unsanitary and it actually having the ability to spread disease is not the same. It is totally possible to make such a combined sceme scientifically sanitary as far as the stread of desease, which is the only practical reason to seperate it from everything else. The rest is your vanity in finding it unsanitary, just like me using vanity to say public breast feeding is offensive.

I really don't care all that much, would rather not see it though. I, like has been said, would find it to be common sence and polite to do it privately anyways. Why we can't rely on this is above.

[Atahualpa]

France is a shining example here. In no other country I have seen so many pregnant women in public. In all other countries women seem to hide, being pregnant is not considered to be something positive.
This is clearly wrong, but governments do nothing about it. All they do is say: "make more children". Also I heard there is a nice system about taking care of babies in France. I think they are on the right track. Babies are something positive, pregnant women are something positive and if we don't think that way, we act against ourselves.

[St Leo]

Toplessness (even ugly toplessness (even male toplessness)) is good.

Pregnancy is blech.

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by St Leo
Toplessness (even ugly toplessness (even male toplessness)) is good.

I am not sure about that. As someone who experienced a lot of female toplessness on French beaches, I can testify that not all toplessness is good. Some people should definitely cover up.

[Stuie]

The fact that this is even an issue for some people is just plain sad.

[monkspider]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
This is why we have women's restrooms.

[Flubber]

quote:
Originally posted by DinoDoc
This is why we have women's restrooms.




I hope you don't expect them to breastfeed on the toilet.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by Patroklos
There is no reason why a woman cannot wait for an appropriate time for doint this.

Why? You get a child food when its hungary, why shouldn't you be able to do the same for a baby?

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by The diplomat


I am not sure about that. As someone who experienced a lot of female toplessness on French beaches, I can testify that not all toplessness is good. Some people should definitely cover up.

Bigot.

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Bigot.

What's wrong in saying that I don't like to look at a naked ugly woman?