Democrats routinely lie about being heroes

[Ned]

Originally posted by MikeH
The way it seems to me he was trashing the system that had him and his comrades doing that stuff, not his comrades.

MikeH, he did both.

So it comes down to a choice between someone who's hero status is disputed versus a confirmed draft dodger. I'd ignore the issue and vote for the one whos policies I agreed with.

Bush was no draft dodger. A draft dodger was a person who went to Canada to sit out the war and who was later pardoned by that creep Carter.

[MikeH]

Yeah, you're right. It's even worse than that, he abused his family's influence to get into a National Guard unit so he didn't have to go. And then didn't even turn up to his guard unit because he was off drinking all the time.

I don't really see how Republicans can get any mileage on the war thing bearing in mind how bad Bush's appears. At least Kerry was there, no matter how well or badly he performed.

[dannubis]

bush even didn't have to go to canada.
his daddy bailed him out...

but that is besides the point.

the bush admin has made several big mistakes. and it has caused an economic crisis and much human pain. and now they are trying to cover up using something that happened 30 years ago.

[Ned]

Originally posted by MikeH
Yeah, you're right. It's even worse than that, he abused his family's influence to get into a National Guard unit so he didn't have to go. And then didn't even turn up to his guard unit because he was off drinking all the time.

I don't really see how Republicans can get any mileage on the war thing bearing in mind how bad Bush's appears. At least Kerry was there, no matter how well or badly he performed.

The only problem with your thesis is that Bush became a fighter pilot and fighter pilots Guard units were very likely to be deployed to Vietnam.

As to drinking? This is complete bull given that his Alabama boss vouches for him. He showed up. The records prove it as well. It is a wonder how this misinformation continues even after Bush's record was vetted and found to be consistent with regulations and other requirements.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Bob Kerrey is a Democrat and a real hero.

BK is a war criminal who bravely attacked and slaughtered a village at night.

[Ned]

Originally posted by dannubis
bush even didn't have to go to canada.
his daddy bailed him out...

but that is besides the point.

the bush admin has made several big mistakes. and it has caused an economic crisis and much human pain. and now they are trying to cover up using something that happened 30 years ago.

Big Mistakes? Liberation of 45 Million people?

Economic crisis? The recession started during Clinton's last year. We didn't turn the corner until Congress passed Bush's tax cuts and they went into effect last summer. Since that time, we have had the greatest economic expansion since Reagan in 1984.

Stop distorting the truth.

[MikeH]

Originally posted by Ned


The only problem with your thesis is that Bush became a fighter pilot and fighter pilots Guard units were very likely to be deployed to Vietnam.

As to drinking? This is complete bull given that his Alabama boss vouches for him. He showed up. The records prove it as well. It is a wonder how this misinformation continues even after Bush's record was vetted and found to be consistent with regulations and other requirements.

So misinformation's ok as long as it puts democrats in an unfavourable light but not the other way round?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Yeah because the Bush family has never seen any combat.....

WWII was a different time, when Congressmen did have their kids in combat. Most people supported that war, and looked pooly upon shirkers. Korea, Vietnam, and nearly every war since then hasn't had the same urgency.

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


BK is a war criminal who bravely attacked and slaughtered a village at night.

Hah. Kerry was braver! He personally attacked and destroyed a village during the day!

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


WWII was a different time, when Congressmen did have their kids in combat. Most people supported that war, and looked pooly upon shirkers. Korea, Vietnam, and nearly every war since then hasn't had the same urgency.

IIRC, even Clark Gable, of all people, was a bomber pilot.

Are there any Hollywood stars who were Vietnam war heroes?

[chequita guevara]

I don't know about hero, but Oliver Stone served in VN.

[Ned]

BTW, in WWII, my Dad was an officer in the infrantry and my Uncle was a bomber pilot.

During Vietnam, I was drafted, but was dismissed due to my poor eyesight.

[Ned]

Ali, then known as Clay, spent four years in jail rather than go.

[chequita guevara]

Ali, true American hero!

[dannubis]

Originally posted by Ned


Stop distorting the truth.

you are saying this to me ???



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