John Kerry the war criminal: Unfit to command, part 2

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by GePap
Lord, this crap still.

Lets see who here believe them: Oh wait, the anti-Kerry people and ONLY the anti-Kerry people. Talk about preaching to the choir.

Yawn.

20 guys who served in the same unit disagree with what kerry (or others on his behalf) has said about the facts of his service but they are lying and kerry is telling the truth.

All you have to do is start with the first purple heart to know there is something wrong about kerrys version of the events. Anyone who has any experience at all will know that kerrys 'shrapnel wound' did not come from enemy rifle fire.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned


GePap, why of course. Kerry is not the liar. Bush is the liar. We all know this because the "anybody but Bush" crowd have been repeating it for more than an year. It must be true.

When Michael Moore was asked why he says that Bush lied, he explained that there were no WMD. QED.

All this prooves, if Moore is correct, is that Bush had better intel than anyone else on the planet in that he alone among world leaders KNEW that Saddam had no WMD. Wow.

But it clear, GePap, that he real liar is not Bush. It is Kerry. That man has serious, SERIOUS, character flaws.

Oh Ned, top quality troll there.

I don't give a **** about what these men did 30 years ago. Bush used to be an alcoholic- so I don;t give a rats butt.

All in all, if you examine their records, Kerry has had a much more distinguished life than Bush in the public sphere. BUt I support Kerry because I support his proposed domesticl policies (OH wait, did we forget those?) and becuase, besides disagreeing vehemently with Bush on his view on almost all social and domestic issues, I think his handling of Iraq has been poor at best.

To say it simply: all other things being the same, more American servicemen have died in Iraq due to Bush policy than would have otherwise. That Bush has blood on his hands matters a great deal more to me than Kerry's Vietnam record, or his views on Vietnam, which I find much more realitic than the romantic bull**** you Ned and those swiftboat veterans want to imagine.

[GePap]

Originally posted by SpencerH


20 guys who served in the same unit disagree with what kerry (or others on his behalf) has said about the facts of his service but they are lying and kerry is telling the truth.

All you have to do is start with the first purple heart to know there is something wrong about kerrys version of the events. Anyone who has any experience at all will know that kerrys 'shrapnel wound' did not come from enemy rifle fire.

Unfortunately, they have nothing but their words, and have no offical records to back any of their assertions. And given they are all openyl partisan, and some of them have been used as partisan hacks before, they have as much credability as Kerry and his surrogates.

But Kerry can show offical documents. They can't.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Gibsie
So Thurlow admits that he got his Bronze Star for fraudulent reasons. REPUBLICANESQUE REASON OVER-RIDE~ HOW CAN YOU TRUST THIS MAN, HE ADMITS HE OBTAINED AWARDS FRAUDULENTLY?!?!?!

Did you actually read the second article? Where is the implication that he perpetrated the fraud?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten




I think I read that the NYT was up to 43 articles on the Bush-AWOL story at last count. It they're really unbiased, we should be reading about Kerry's excellent adventure in Cambodia until the election.

Only 43, that clearly signals that they are at worst centrist (fair and balanced) with a slight leaning to the left.

Its all proportional to relevance tho' isn't it?

[Drake Tungsten]

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ned
I understand from watching FOX yesterday

Neddy, Neddy, Neddy.

[MikeH]

Both your presidential candidates are complete losers, I'd call it a day and change countries if I was American.

[Pekka]

I understand watching Al Jazeera last night that Saddam is still free and it was all American propaganda. He is leading his troops from small villages of Iraq, and is ready to overthrow the American contingent soon. He has nuclear weapons of mass confusion.

I'm still waiting this to be picked up my major media.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Pekka
I understand watching Al Jazeera last night that Saddam is still free and it was all American propaganda. He is leading his troops from small villages of Iraq, and is ready to overthrow the American contingent soon. He has nuclear weapons of mass confusion.

I'm still waiting this to be picked up my major media.

It probably has a better chance.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I guess MtG didn't understand correctly.

Burning villages falls under the concept of firing on anyone and anything in a free fire zone.

[Pekka]

I'm not sure. Pravda still claims Saddam does not really exists but is creation of US government, and was used as an excuse to attack Iraq. Pravda also has recieved numerous secret reports from ex-CIA officer, that proves all of this and reveal new facts about the TRUTH in ME.

I must say I'm conflicted which is true, because the other one has to be a lie. I will make up my mind about this based on how they view the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

[Kuciwalker]

Pravda claims Saddam didn't exist at all?

[Pekka]

Kuciwalker, well no, but I was just making my point about FOX News. It's in the same line with Pravda. Al Jazeera might be even more with journalistic integrity than FOX News. However, doesn't make AJ any good, they're all BS and enemies of democracy and freedom, all 3.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Pekka
I'm not sure. Pravda still claims Saddam does not really exists but is creation of US government, and was used as an excuse to attack Iraq. Pravda also has recieved numerous secret reports from ex-CIA officer, that proves all of this and reveal new facts about the TRUTH in ME.

I must say I'm conflicted which is true, because the other one has to be a lie. I will make up my mind about this based on how they view the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

Wait for the PRC talking points to be made public before you make your decision. Always a good lie err tie breaker, that.