American Worldwide Withdrawal Begins

[Berzerker]

I see it as a bit more complicated than that. Simply put...There is usually more than one side to an issue.

Yes, there are different sides to the issue, and what is ours? We want oil so we kiss up to brutal regimes, invade Arab countries, overthrow governments we don't like without regard to what Arabs want, and prop up the state of Israel imposed upon Arabs by the west.

What's their side? Oh yeah, they don't want us kissing up to brutal regimes, invading Arab countries, overthrowing governments without regard to what Arabs want, and propping up Israel.

Might as well "justify" rape by accusing the victim of hating the rapist...

[Agathon]

That's the point.

Hardly, they fumed about it for years. Our Prime Minister even got invited to the Oxford debating society to argue the case against nuclear weapons against some Tory. Thrashed him too.

[Ted Striker]

Nobody seems to care about it but you.

[The Vagabond]

American Worldwide Withdrawal Begins

Yeah, right. But the circle of bases around Russia only gets tighter. If new bases are ever created in Ukraine or Georgia, a nuke of despair should be detonated somewhere in the world.

[Saras]

Originally posted by The Vagabond


Yeah, right. But the circle of bases around Russia only gets tighter. If new bases are ever created in Ukraine or Georgia, a nuke of despair should be detonated somewhere in the world.

Maybe there's a reason Russia's neighbors want US bases? That idea never crossed your mind?

[The Vagabond]

Of course there are reasons. Russia should just produce even stronger reasons for them not to want it.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Stop killing each other every 50 years and we won't have to.

How many wars did we start in the past 50 years? How many did you?

[Saras]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
Of course there are reasons. Russia should just produce even stronger reasons for them not to want it.

Like time travelling back and rewriting its history?

[The Vagabond]

If time travel were possible, we would use it to a much greater purpose than that.

[Saras]

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph


How many wars did we start in the past 50 years? How many did you?

You tell us how many we started.

[Harovan]

I can't count that far.

[Agathon]

Nobody seems to care about it but you.

The point is that telling the US to get stuffed is a low risk enterprise, contra the loons who think that the US can tell everyone else what to do at the point of an aircraft carrier.

[Verto]

Originally posted by The Vagabond


Yeah, right. But the circle of bases around Russia only gets tighter. If new bases are ever created in Ukraine or Georgia, a nuke of despair should be detonated somewhere in the world.

Must be a pill to swallow; American bases "circling" Russia instead of soviet bases circling Europe.

[DanS]

Kerry is going to do a major policy address against this realignment.

The realignment seems to make good sense and was well vetted. This seems like a loser issue for Kerry.