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Originally posted by Albert Speer
if anything Greek/Egyptian but thats doubtful
if anything Greek/Egyptian but thats doubtful
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Cleopatra was a Pletolomy so she most certainly was at least partially Greek. Given the Greek's additude about the greatness of Greekness and the barbarism of everyone else she was likely pure blood. In fact in their hay day the Pletolomies had brothers marry sisters just so they wouldn't dilute the blood line.
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Speer you spiggin Nazi English-hater
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Ahhh, a good website on Cleopatra. Her father was Ptolemy XII, her first husband was her brother Ptolemy XIII. She and her brother/husband struggled for control of the Kingdom when Cleoptra allied herself with Julius Caesar.
When she was 22 she seduced Ceaser by giving him a hand woven carpet with her naked self wrapped inside it. Together she and Ceaser defeated her brother and had him killed. After that Cleoptra was forced to marry her younger brother Ptolemy XIV though she never the less quickly became Ceaser's lover and she had his son, Caesarion.
When Julius Ceaser was assassinated Rome fell into Civil War between Mark Antony and Octavian. Cleopatra sided with Mark Antony and she also took him as a lover. Romans hated the idea of a foreign Empress and they hated even more that Antony gave parts of the middle east to his girlfriend to rule.
BTW here's a good quote on Cleopatra's decent.
The Ptolemies were of Macedonian descent, yet they ruled Egypt as Egyptians - as Pharaohs. And, indeed, Cleopatra was the last Pharaoh.
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guys name was al khoie, and its pretty clear he was killed by Sadr.Originally posted by DinoDoc
You know my opinion of Bams Sava. We have evidence that Sadr killed the man and he personally benefited from his death. What do you have?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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The Ptolemies saw most of the of Europe and the middle east fall to the Romans and as city after city fell into the Romans hands they allied themselves with Rome to prevent Egypt from being conquored by Rome. Never the less Romans arranged things so that they got a bigger and bigger say in how Egypt was run and Cleopatra seems to have been trying to find a way to save her family's royal status. She saught to marry into the Roman ruling elite. She openly sought to place her & Julius Ceaser's son as both the Emperor of Rome and the Pharaoh of Egypt. Unluckily for her she sided with the wrong side in the Roman civil war and she was forced to commit suicide before Octavius could have her publicly executed.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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It's common knowledge here in Iraq plus the Iraqi courts have indicted Sadr for the murder.Originally posted by lord of the mark
guys name was al khoie, and its pretty clear he was killed by Sadr.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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The Ptolemies saw most of the of Europe and the middle east fall to the Romans and as city after city fell into the Romans hands they allied themselves with Rome to prevent Egypt from being conquored by Rome. Never the less Romans arranged things so that they got a bigger and bigger say in how Egypt was run and Cleopatra seems to have been trying to find a way to save her family's royal status. She saught to marry into the Roman ruling elite. She openly sought to place her & Julius Ceaser's son as both the Emperor of Rome and the Pharaoh of Egypt. Unluckily for her she sided with the wrong side in the Roman civil war and she was forced to commit suicide before Octavius could have her publicly executed.
And that was a good thing for Rome. Imagine more of the dynasty crap carrying on...Comment
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lonestar:
there's no God in the future so how can there be a muslim?
and Urban:
racial insults? i was talking about the English, a people that come in all races... welsh, anglo, saxon, jute, norman, french, norwegian, jamaican, indian, pakistani, chinese, etc. The english are a rainbow of races.
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What a tw@t, you don't save your most mortal enemyOriginally posted by Lonestar
Dr. Bashir, the Saviour of the Federation. (Invented cure for the desease that was killing the Founders)
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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Park Avenue's slurs are wrong but they are freaking hilarious!!!
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Perhaps you mean the BRITISH, as in Great Britain.Originally posted by Albert Speer
lonestar:
there's no God in the future so how can there be a muslim?
and Urban:
racial insults? i was talking about the English, a people that come in all races... welsh, anglo, saxon, jute, norman, french, norwegian, jamaican, indian, pakistani, chinese, etc. The english are a rainbow of races.
First called so when ENGLAND and SCOTLAND and the Principality of WALES had the same monarch, James VI and I.
The United Kingdom comprises the province of Northern Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales, with associated territories such as the Channel Islands.
There is a difference between English and British, you know.
Especially to last ditch racists.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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what about those cockney girls though ?We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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pale as lace"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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Explain, with examples.Originally posted by Ted Striker
what about those cockney girls though ?Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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