Democratic Convention

[Jaguar]

Yea. I noticed that too. He talked over the crowd a lot.

[Pekka]

Anyone who would say that wasn't a good speech must be hardcore Republican or just hate Kerry no matter what.

The truth is, it was an excellent speech. The truth is, you can't write much better speech than that. The truth is, that's maybe one of the best speeches in presidential competitions in a long time.

The way he delivered it wasn't the best. He started kind of uncomfortably. The loud crowd, he couldn't work it at first. He had a difficult pace. But he got the hang of it, making it an OK delivery. Not the best possible though. Not a delivery that the speech itself would have deserved.

Let there be no mistake, it was a great speech, and the rest of you are just haters. I mean, I haven't taken any sides on Bush vs. Kerry, but show me a speech, that is even WRITTEN (you don't even have to compare delivery) as good as this one, that Bush has given. The fact is, there is no competition.

Now, Bush has to ante up. His delivery is not as good. He maybe is more charismatic though. So he should use that. He should avoid all the traps Kerry set to him in this speech. And his speech writers better step up big, rock star big. I don't say he can't do better than Kerry tonight, but I say it will be very difficult. Difficult for anyone.

Right, so when do the presidential candidates do tv debates?

[MrFun]

I really thought Kerry's speech was great. Where do others get the impression that Kerry is a boring speaker??

[Ramo]

Obama took care of the applause by basically ignoring it and speaking even louder, which I thought is a far more effective approach than either trying to stop it, or making lengthy pauses everytime the crowd breaks out in applause.

[Jaguar]

There were some points where the writing was good. But it was boring more often than not, and his delivery was horrible.

Now, I'm perfectly willing to admit that I am extremely biased against Kerry, but you can't yell at me because I don't support Bush.

[Pekka]

Ramo, right, I agree. Except if it's a clear punch line, you should let the crowd cheer for a while. Precise build ups, and then do the talking over with louder and steady voice, leading to almost exploding punch line and follow it up with a serious face and soon after give some nods with a smile. It's not that difficult.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Jaguar
There were some points where the writing was good. But it was boring more often than not, and his delivery was horrible.

Now, I'm perfectly willing to admit that I am extremely biased against Kerry, but you can't yell at me because I don't support Bush.

I like to yell at you for no damn good reason, you know that.

[Pekka]

Jaguar, the writing was near perfection, even if I wouldn't agree with its points or content.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ramo
Obama took care of the applause by basically ignoring it and speaking even louder, which I thought is a far more effective approach than either trying to stop it, or making lengthy pauses everytime the crowd breaks out in applause.

I disagree. When you're trying to sell yourself, one of the most effective techniques is to let others do the selling. Let the crowd cheer their hearts out. It makes you seem a much better speaker.

[Pekka]

che, I disagree. In a longer speech, the structure becomes weaker if they cheer the whole time and you don't speak. Rather sometimes speak over to make the cheering even louder, that sells good too.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MrFun
Where do others get the impression that Kerry is a boring speaker??

Great speaking comes from passion. Kerry's passion is very contained, even though in places it showed through. I have the feeling that if Bill Clinton gave that same speech, I'd have swooned. Now that's a man that give a speech.

[Jaguar]

If you can effectively talk over the crowd, it's very energetic. Tell the crowd something they want to hear, they start cheering, and then you say something else they like, and the energy builds more. But he was somewhere in between, and it wasn't effective.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Over all it was a good speach delivered by a mediocre speaker at his best performance.

As opposed to Bush, who is a poor speaker who will have to make a great speach and have better than his best performance at the RNC.

[Jaguar]

I think Edwards is the only good speechgiver of the four.

[Shi Huangdi]

It was an accident. He corrected himself and meant to say anti-terrorist operations. I'm sure it's gonna get lots of right-wing play though.

I dunno Che....