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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I'd even think that would be a stretch. Just because someone has influence doesn't mean he should have less freedoms. Saying someone is a tumor doesn't mean that he wants them removed forceably, by violence.
No, but when you tell a bunch of people after being given a platform, it becomes a possibility that people might see it that way. I'll bet that tyrants throughout history have used less harsh laguage to inflame populations against certain groups. Someone given a platform must use it responsibility; perhaps prosecution is not justified (As I've agreed, it is a stretch), but I certainly don't think any church should allow such sermons to be made in their name.
I still think saying someone is a tumour is akin to saying they should be removed (Not necessarily by violence).
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I certainly don't think any church should allow such sermons to be made in their name.
I don't disagree. Perhaps we are arguing when we share similar beliefs here. I don't condone it, but I think they should be allowed to say it without fear of being thrown in jail for their beliefs.
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I ask again, how many Swedish mullahs have been prosecuted for preaching hatred against Jewish people.
How many Klingon ambassadors have been prosecuted for spying on U.S. military secrets?
None? Oh, it must be a conspiracy to protect those spying Klingons.
Not to say Swedish mullahs don't exist, but you're asking a meaningless question that doesn't get to the fact.
Why not find some examples of Swedish mullahs who have said such things as this pastor did who have not been prosecuted and then ask, why not? Because if the answer to your question it, "none," it's irrelevant if there haven't been Swedish mullahs doing such things so that they could be charged, now isn't it?
I certainly don't think any church should allow such sermons to be made in their name.
I don't disagree. Perhaps we are arguing when we share similar beliefs here. I don't condone it, but I think they should be allowed to say it without fear of being thrown in jail for their beliefs.
Bah. People also have the right to say that which would make them fear that such actions would land them in jail!
Originally posted by MrFun
He couldn't have been serious about book-burning -- that is the realm for unsophisicated bigots who can't allow for books that they disagree with.
Or someone in desperate need of heat. The Bible would certainly work better than most to keep you warm, or cook your food! It's the cherry log to the pine splinters most books comprise.
(plus if it's true, you'll be much more likely to be warm in the afterlife as well!)
Why the hell is Ben Kenobi so OBSESSED with bothering gays, doesn't he have anything better to do, to condemn, like those guys choping people's heads off in the middle east.
Last time I checked even under some subjective christian discipline murder is worse then homosexuality....
Ben can't you live and let live, Jesus was teaching that.... why not listen to what he said, instead of what other people said he said... geez....?
Ben, do you condemn hindu's, muslims, wiccans to the same degree?
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