Does anyone else here like the Wikipedia?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Atahualpa
I cited wikipedia's information on Radar and Passive Radar in my latest work for university.

You probably lost points.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And I added a link to Sid Meier's entry . That was bloody easy as Hell. Sweet .

Btw, any reason Markos and Dan's names aren't there and are instead _____?

[notyoueither]

Consumers will have a great deal more to do with the 'big scene' than voters ever will, unless the voters empower the gubmint to do really stupid stuff, like go all socialist on their asses.

Take the auto industry, for example. Back in the seventies, consumers by and large decided that Detroit sucked. They brought the American auto industry to its knees in ways the gubmint would never have dared to.

It comes down to there are more possible choices for consumers where to spend money then there are for voters on whom to vote for, even though the consumers and the voters are the very same people, ideally.

Where consumers spend money will shape society in the future far more than who they vote for, within reason. Consumers will give the breath of life to a product, and therefore a process, by buying it or they will deliver the kiss of death by ignoring it.

It is far more democratic than the political process, where we seem to be stuck with the living dead. We are stuck with these vampires that none of us seem to like, but who seem to rise from the grave on every possible occasion.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


And I added a link to Sid Meier's entry . That was bloody easy as Hell. Sweet .

Btw, any reason Markos and Dan's names aren't there and are instead _____?

I didn't bother to check the spelling so I left that to someone else

Btw. it really is easy to add stuff to Wikipedia, this was my first try. Nice.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


And I added a link to Sid Meier's entry . That was bloody easy as Hell. Sweet .

Btw, any reason Markos and Dan's names aren't there and are instead _____?

No one has written in Bobo and Scooter?

[Agathon]

Consumers will have a great deal more to do with the 'big scene' than voters ever will, unless the voters empower the gubmint to do really stupid stuff, like go all socialist on their asses

That's the case in a country where most of the economic decisions are made by means of markets. But that doesn't speak against my point, which is that ,proportionally speaking, democracy is more egalitarian than the market. I don't think any reasonable person disputes that, although they might dispute whether or not this should matter.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Take the auto industry, for example. Back in the seventies, consumers by and large decided that Detroit sucked. They brought the American auto industry to its knees in ways the gubmint would never have dared to.

OTOH, we have RIAA and all the wannables. Plus spam.

Originally posted by notyoueither
It is far more democratic than the political process, where we seem to be stuck with the living dead.

I don't see how - those who have no money cannot vote.

[notyoueither]

Well, a reasonable person would have to hold that forth for a reasonable person to refute it, no?

How anyone could say that politics is more equal than the market beggars the imagination.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I didn't bother to check the spelling so I left that to someone else

Ok, I got it . This is my first time adding stuff to Wikipedia as well. I'm having fun with adding links .

[Agathon]

Hate to be a pedant but that translation of "Apolyton" is slightly misleading.

In classical Greek it means various things. I assume Markos mean "the ultimate" since that is what one sense of the Greek implies. See:

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin....reflang=greekyout.reflookup=a%29poluton;doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A19 99.04.0057%3Aentry%3D%2313147

Of course, it may mean something else in modern Greek.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hate to be a pedant but that translation of "Apolyton" is slightly misleading.

Then change it . Though I agree that Markos refered to it as 'The Ultimate' rather than 'The Best'.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

OTOH, we have RIAA and all the wannables. Plus spam.

Who's 'buying' it?

I don't see how - those who have no money cannot vote.

Even in the darkest corner of liberty deprived PRC, villagers are buying things. They are voting with the fruits of their labour in ways the gubmint would never allow them to with a ballot.

The market, which is based on human desire, and therefore nature, overcomes political systems that think they have transcended it. Unless you go the NK way. There there is no market, and truely no hope.

[Agathon]

How anyone could say that politics is more equal than the market beggars the imagination.

Both are methods of decision making about regulation and production. Your purchasing habits determine what sort of things producers will continue to produce. But people have vastly different sums of money which is why the result is that rich people get vastly more of what they want.

But (corruption aside) everyone gets one vote. If something is decided democratically, then everyone has a roughly equal say. Not so with money, in which the preferences of most people are discounted.

[Darkstar]

That's the fun with Wiki. Anyone can add or edit to any non-locked page.

[Agathon]

The market, which is based on human desire, and therefore nature, overcomes political systems that think they have transcended it. Unless you go the NK way. There there is no market, and truely no hope.

That's complete pants. The market requires us to act in unnatural ways. For the greater part of human history people lived in small communities where selfishness was frowned upon because it was a poor survival strategy. The result of this was the moderate altruism that we all display.

Even now people have concerns about things like price gouging and inflated markups (both of which are often required if a market is to function properly) which is a mark of how persistent the old ways of thinking are.

There's nothing natural about capitalism - it is a sophisticated abstract cultural artifact.