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  • Who said anything about locking up people who pick fights?
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    • and yea, having said the mall was at fault, you will respect that officer's AUTHORITAH!

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      • Malls suck.
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        • Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
          yeah everyone here is so insecure about their manhood that they have to constantly talk about how manly they are, and how whimpy whiners deserve to get whupped.
          I beg your pardon? He asked me a question and I answered it. If you didn't like my answer, then fvck off - I wasn't talking to you in the first place.
          Last edited by JohnT; June 30, 2004, 23:08.

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          • this kind of thing can only lead to trouble.

            if I saw someone beating on my brother who wasn't me I would try to inflict as much damage as possible, thoughts about jail wouldn't even enter into it.
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            • The police officer was a dumb-ass thug and your brother was foolish.


              no winners here
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              • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                Whinny asses deserve to get beaten.
                Picking a fight here, eh, you rude, uncivlised savage? I am going to whomp your sorry ass.

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                • Bring it! You can't handle me!
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • Attica!
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • Originally posted by Seeker
                      if I saw someone beating on my brother who wasn't me I would try to inflict as much damage as possible, thoughts about jail wouldn't even enter into it.
                      I'm not really sure I could bring myself to defend my siblings from a beating they provoked.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • You're not a very good brother then.
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                        • Originally posted by OzzyKP


                          Not a chance.

                          They won't even slap him on the wrist. I doubt any officers would consider his actions wrong in the slightest. I mean, did those guys in NY who sodomized a guy with a broom even get fired? I thought they were just transfered or sent a half-stern letter.
                          You're kidding, right?

                          The one who did that, Justin Volpe, got thirty years' hard time.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • Originally posted by The Mad Monk


                            You're kidding, right?

                            The one who did that, Justin Volpe, got thirty years' hard time.
                            Don't ruin it for him!
                            He's got the Midas touch.
                            But he touched it too much!
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                            • Originally posted by Winston
                              Civil Disobedience Gone Bad?

                              From the description of his behaviour, maybe your brother should try being more civil and less disobedient in the future.

                              And not automatically blame just about everyone but himself for his apparent lack of self-control.
                              He blamed everyone but himself? Wow. What orafice did you pull that from?
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                              • I think the cop acted badly. I think the ex-marine acted badly. And I think your brother acted badly:

                                Eventually the recruiters got tired of my brother and called mall security. Mall security arrives and tells him to leave. He refuses to do so until they present a letter of trespass. More time passes, more threats are made against my brother, more demands of departure, and a city police offer shows up.
                                At that point, you toss a couple of comments about shutting down dissenting views over your shoulder and LEAVE. Instead, he stayed, deliberately "picking a fight" (I put it in quotes because it's pretty clear he didn't actually want to get into a physical brawl) with the authorities. This leads to his being restrained.

                                Then...

                                He was told that he was not being arrested. He was hand-cuffed. He is not being told what is happening to him. He considers this to be kidnapping and breaks free of the police officer.
                                Kidnapping? Come ON. The cop was taking him out of the mall. The handcuffs were to restrain him. Duh. The cop could definitely have defused this situation by quietly telling your brother he was merely being removed from the mall. However, "breaking free of the officer" was just idiotic. Seriously, what did he expect the officer to do? Let him go? Suddenly decide to have a friendly chat with him? Hell no, the guy was going to restrain him again, harder this time.

                                And here is where the cop shows that he is an assholio:

                                At this point my brother calms down because the arrest is now lawful. But soon he notices that he is bleeding. He requests medical attention immediately. The officer does not listen to him. There is blood all over the place. It is obvious he is injured, but the officer simply continues to make sure my brother has trouble getting enough air to remain conscious.

                                Eventually my brother struggles away from the officer so that he can see where he is bleeding and how bad the injury is. The officer proceeds to pull out his taser and hold it to him, saying, "Watcha gonna do now?" over and over. My brother asks the officer if he is really going to taser an injured person lying on their back in handcuffs. The officer puts away the stun gun.
                                Jerk.

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