spiderman 2

[OzzyKP]

Well I saw it again with friends today. It didn't suck me in as totally as the first time, but it is still an amazing flick.

Of a virtually flawless movie, only two things bugged me. (har har)

First is the landlord's daughter. What the hell is the point of her? The scene where they eat cake is absolutely pointless.

Second, they cut scenes too quick. Good for the MTV generation I suppose, but they'd have an amazingly touching, sad scene, and then half a second later jump to a brooding, evil scene, and then half a second later go to comedy, then action, then romance, then... Each scene was a work of art, but we needed more time to sit and appreciate each scene before jumping to the next one.

But in spite of that, still a kick ass movie.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Verto
What is the song that plays during this scene? Anyone have any idea what I am talking about?

[JohnT]

Not only does that mean he's unknowledgable about late-1960's popular music, it also means he hasn't seen Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Verto, you need to get out more or something.

[JohnT]

Off to see the movie. If this thing sucks, somebody here owes me $6.50!

[DinoDoc]

If you hated the first one, you're more than likely going to hate the second. So that's all on you.

[Verto]

Originally posted by OzzyKP


"Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head" by BJ Thomas

Thanks. I knew the song, but by the next day it was just a fuzzy memory. The tune and the name were on the tip of my tongue, and it's been driving me crazy.

Verto, you need to get out more or something.

[JohnT]

Minor spoilers!

Man, I love going to the movies. No matter how the film turns out, once you sit down in that seat, the atmosphere of expectation almost leaves me giddy, regardless of my mood when I first entered the theater.

Spiderman 2 was a very good popcorn flick. It had flair, style, and even a little bit of character development, so that the characters who opened the movie were not the same people when they left it. The storyboard plotting for the F/X scenes must have been quite intricate, given the speed at which they occurred and the fact that they didn't lose continuity is a big plus in my book (however, continuity errors are readily more apparant on second and later viewings). Far superior to the first film, this is the most enjoyable summer action movie that I've seen in a long while. All the action scenes are as exhilirating as they appear in the trailer, and Toby McGuire (sp?) gives an almost nuanced performance as Peter Parker... easily the best acted Superhero since Christopher Reeves in the first two Superman movies.

It did drag a bit at times, which is to be expected because you can't keep up the pace relentlessly. Kirsten Dunst... I never bought into their relationship in the first movie, and I didn't buy into it here. When she told him at the end "I think I knew all along", it was all I could do to stop rolling my eyes. Actually, I didn't even try to stop it.

Aunt May was a hoot, especially with her big scene with Doc Ock (sp?). I'm rather surprised that the question of where Peter went in the bank was never resolved on-screen, but it is strongly hinted at towards the end of the movie that she realizes that Peter is Spiderman, and has realized it for quite awhile.

The villain was believably human, though the resolution to the crisis was - able. I'm glad that, unlike W. Dafoe's character in the first film, they decided early on what his motivations were - he was possessed by machinery. However, it's a damn good thing for him that nobody ever thought to aim a gun at his head.

I agree that this is to SM1 what Empire Strikes Back was to SW - a deepening of the mythology while still keeping with the flair of the original (even though I don't think either original films were very good.)

Superman 1 and 2 still are the standards by which these films are to be judged by. But Spiderman 2 is a worthy contender, imnsho.

Ozzy:

First is the landlord's daughter. What the hell is the point of her? The scene where they eat cake is absolutely pointless.

The point was to show that a Spiderman-less Peter was attractive to not only more girls than Peter+Spiderman, but to a different type of girl: note that the landlords daughter had more than an air of the skank about her, implying that without the responsibility of the job, Peter would fall into the wrong elements - the beautiful, virginal Kirsten would've never gone for "regular" Peter, but the skanks would.

[monkspider]

Glad you liked it John . For me it has surpassed the first Spidey as the best Superhero movie ever. Truly a phenomenal flick.

[monkspider]

RE: The Cake scene

The cake bit fit the movie's later theme of how people are capable of kind surprises. The entire first part of the movie was about how absolutely awful life can be with bad thing after bad thing happening to Peter Parker. The flip side is represented though in instances like the cake scene with the neighbor and in the way the train people were protective of Spiderman. I found that moment with the neighbor a simple yet surprisingly intimate, soothing, and poignant respite from the more manic slam bang character of most of the movie. It is small quiet touches like this that raise the movie to a higher standard.

[JohnT]

I read it totally differently. However, I'm not going to argue the point because the timeline is not fixed totally in my head in regards to where Peter was in his relationship with Mary Jane.

[monkspider]

I'm sure yours is a valid interpretation too, I didn't mean to imply otherwise, that's just what I got from the scene.

[Hot Mustard]

Re: Minor spoilers!

Originally posted by JohnT
Aunt May was a hoot, especially with her big scene with Doc Ock (sp?). I'm rather surprised that the question of where Peter went in the bank was never resolved on-screen, but it is strongly hinted at towards the end of the movie that she realizes that Peter is Spiderman, and has realized it for quite awhile.

If she didn't already know as a result of cleaning out Peter's comic books - wasn't that where he kept his Spidey drawings?

[Alex]

saw it, liked it, better than the first one and i want to marry kirsten dunst, don't ask me why.

[Dis]

does Kirsten have any hot scenes?

[Dis]

I guess I may see this one. I wasn't a big fan of the first. But this one seems more interesting to me.