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  • #61
    Originally posted by DinoDoc
    I haven't given any plot spoilers. What did you think was going to be the end result of Harry's growing hatred of Spiderman?
    ACK!

    It didn't have to be Harry, either!

    A pox on thee!


    EDIT: I mean, it's not really a surprise, but it didn't have to be that way. It certainly didn't have to end up with Harry taking up his father's mantle. (Of course, maybe it does have to be that way; like I said, I don't know the comics.) I'll see the movie anyway, but that is a bit disappointing... I rather liked him.
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    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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    • #62
      Did you see any of the trailers for the movie?
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      • #63
        I've actually tried to avoid them, unsuccessfully. It's still pretty vague in the trailer; I know he hires Doc Ock to find Spiderman, but it doesn't necessarily mean he has to turn full-bore eeeeeeeevil.
        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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        • #64
          Tell me when you see the movie and I'll describe why it had to be that way.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #65
            Harry's bowtie at MJ's wedding is dark green - is that not obvious enough?

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            • #66
              My only real complaint about the first movie is that it should have been Gwen Stacey, and she should have died, as in the canon.

              It would make Parker's motivations so much starker and clear.
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by dejon
                Harry's bowtie at MJ's wedding is dark green - is that not obvious enough?
                exactly. since you brought it up, I will add that I was hoping he would fly in and wreck the wedding or something. give it a "stay tuned to next time" ending, or even throw in some "I'll get you spiderman schlock.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by molly bloom
                  I heard on Tuesday that Keanu Reeves is playing John Constantine in the film of 'Hellblazer'- which has magically relocated to the United States too.

                  Alan Moore apparently wants nothing to do with it.

                  March 4th, 2004 - Alan Moore Disowns Constantine ?

                  After reviewing the script and casting of HELLBLAZER, Comic Kingpin Alan Moore has done the unthinkable. He's washed his hand of the entire debacle. That's right-he's instructed DC to NOT credit him as the creator of the character. And putting his money where his mouth is, he has instructed that the royalties that he was splitting with his co-creators goes EXCLUSIVELY to the artists, Veitch and Bissette.

                  Taken from AICN


                  February 21st, 2004 - Director Francis Lawrence on Constantine

                  "Ah, interesting question. Well, I think you start to take...what I think first attracted me to this project was just the character himself - not the fact that he was English, not the fact that he had blonde hair and not the fact that he wore an olive-colored trench coat. It was sort of what made him who he was. And I think we've maintained that."

                  - Francis Lawrence on the decision to forego John Constantine's English nationality in favour of making him American."

                  I look forward to the director's retread of Sherlock Holmes as a Kalahari bushwoman in Botswana, played by Kim Basinger.

                  http://www.insanerantings.com/hell/movie/

                  That movie does look really good. I've never heard of this Constantine though, whats it about?
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                  • #69
                    I just saw Spiderman 1 last night again. I must say, I really did like the first one. I'm not sure about all the complaints about that one.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by asleepathewheel
                      exactly. since you brought it up, I will add that I was hoping he would fly in and wreck the wedding or something. give it a "stay tuned to next time" ending, or even throw in some "I'll get you spiderman schlock.
                      Yeah - I was ready for something like that too!

                      My only complaint is the same as a reviewer on /. - Peter Parker is supposed to give smart-alec comebacks/comments all the time. There was maybe two in the whole movie, and weak ones at that.

                      While I think the director has done a great job of character development, there's not much more to explore for the main characters. This is why I think the third movie might have time for two villians - Harry (Green Goblin) and Dr. Connors (The Lizard).

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        I just saw Spiderman 1 last night again. I must say, I really did like the first one. I'm not sure about all the complaints about that one.
                        I went to Blockbuster to see if it was available (going to give it a third chance), but alas it wasn't. I should learn better: I tried to get Shrek the same weekend Shrek 2 came out, but to no avail.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by dejon


                          Yeah - I was ready for something like that too!

                          My only complaint is the same as a reviewer on /. - Peter Parker is supposed to give smart-alec comebacks/comments all the time. There was maybe two in the whole movie, and weak ones at that.

                          While I think the director has done a great job of character development, there's not much more to explore for the main characters. This is why I think the third movie might have time for two villians - Harry (Green Goblin) and Dr. Connors (The Lizard).
                          agree on both points

                          as for the latter, there's a huge "what next" question mark. MJ and Peter Check, not much more work there. PP gave up Spidey then came back. Check. Thats a vast portion of the plot of 2. Is there anything left for 3 beyond the standard villains threaten the city plot? I hope so, but...

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                          • #73
                            Ah, I just watched it on 'On Demand'. Fortunetly it was HBO's list of movies. Though I am getting excited about Spiderman2... a lot of reviewers like it and I'm hearing nothing but good things from message board posters.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #74
                              I didn't think Spiderman1 was anything special. I left it with an "eh" feeling. It wasn't actively BAD, for the most part, but neither was it any good.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by dejon

                                While I think the director has done a great job of character development, there's not much more to explore for the main characters. This is why I think the third movie might have time for two villians - Harry (Green Goblin) and Dr. Connors (The Lizard).
                                NOOOOO!!! If so, spiderman will go the way of the Batman movies! Further character development shall not be sacrificed for the mere appearance of more villains.

                                I'll end up seeing this but expect to be dissapointed. OTOH I was mildly surprised by my liking of Shrek2 and Dodgeball. (Man gets hit in the crotch with a ball. It works on so many levels )
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