Moore is at it again (lying as usual)

[chequita guevara]

There's got to be a way to deal with these people, because they need to be dealt with.

Er, rather, a better way to deal with them.

[GePap]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I'm loathe to do this but you've been annoying me with this for 2 threads:

propaganda - information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause

WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University

Notice no mention that the person spreading propaganda must be in a position of power.

So essentially every single op-ed column in most newspapers, and certainly most political columnists in the coutry count as propaganda just as much as Moore. Which is why I find such a generalist definition weak- becuase thenh everything political is propaganda.which means, so what if it propaganda, everything is.

[Verto]

Well certainly Moore's films cannot be described as documentaries.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
So essentially every single op-ed column in most newspapers, and certainly most political columnists in the coutry count as propaganda just as much as Moore. Which is why I find such a generalist definition weak- becuase thenh everything political is propaganda.which means, so what if it propaganda, everything is.

The measurement hasn't been invented yet to weigh how little I care about your opinion on this point.

[GePap]

Maybe we can measure in millimiters the length of the response you felt important enough to spend seconds typing?

Hey, that 2 measurements already!

[MichaeltheGreat]

Now ladies, play nice.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Verto
Well certainly Moore's films cannot be described as documentaries.

Since when is "to document" the same sa saying "without opinion"?

Read the accounts of the Roman writers we use as history if you want a lesson in deeply politically biased writings.

[DinoDoc]

I'll respond to most anything. It means nothing. However, it would behoove you to not annoy people over such triffling matters especially if they are correct.

[GePap]

"Correct"? The definition of propaganda you gave is so broad as to encompase ANYTHING that has an opinion. Meaning most every post YOU have made here could be labelled anti-Moore propaganda, and then, what? Invalid?

Please. Bithcing that Moore is not unbiased is worhtless- of course he is biased. And so am I, and so are you DD. And so what? If no one was biased, there would be no debate whatsoever.

[Verto]

Originally posted by GePap


Since when is "to document" the same sa saying "without opinion"?

Read the accounts of the Roman writers we use as history if you want a lesson in deeply politically biased writings.

The Merriam-Webster entry for documentary lists the words factual, objective.

The American Heritage Dictionary, when one does a search for the word documentary, says "presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film."

[chequita guevara]

The definition of propaganda DD gave is the correct one, and had I not wanted to have Verto be more annoyed with me than he already is, I would have been the one to post it, not DD.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Verto
The Merriam-Webster entry for documentary lists the words factual, objective.

The American Heritage Dictionary, when one does a search for the word documentary, says "presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film."

I've never once seen a documentary that fits that standard.

[Verto]

I'm sorry.

[GePap]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The definition of propaganda DD gave is the correct one, and had I not wanted to have Verto be more annoyed with me than he already is, I would have been the one to post it, not DD.

Did I say it was incorrect? No, I said it was broad. Which mean I could correctly call many many things today propaganda. Thnigs that if I were to correctly label as propaganda, people might start complaining, becuase in the modern word the word has a connotation that is unseamly. You know, how the Swaztika is an acient symbol used by many cultures with no evil connotation, but is banned from this site becuase of what it came to mean due to one specific use.

[chequita guevara]

Even the crappy ones we had in high school had a point of view, like Science is Fun or Your Friend, your lower intestine!