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  • #31
    Originally posted by Oerdin
    They should just charge him with the easiest case first but leave open the option to tack on more charges later. BTW When exactly was the Nurmingburg trial in relation to the occupation of Germany? As I recall Germany was occupied for something like four years.
    Started in 1947, IIRC, although there were earlier trials elsewhere. Nürnberg was just for the biggest fish.
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    • #32
      So, just charge him, then set a date for trial a little ways out, so any necessary evidence can be, er, um, "produced" and make sure the jury is half Kurd and half Shiite.


      I don't think we should charge him. What if we never find enough evidence for an airtight case and he ends up pulling a Slobo? We should just turn him over to the tender mercies of the Iraqi transitional government on June 30th and let them take care of things.

      That's probably in violation of international law, though.
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      • #33
        Let him loose but forbid him from leaving Texas

        In all seriousness the IRC is being pedantic here. I think in a case like this the USA should have at least another six months.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
          I don't think we should charge him. What if we never find enough evidence for an airtight case and he ends up pulling a Slobo? We should just turn him over to the tender mercies of the Iraqi transitional government on June 30th and let them take care of things.

          That's probably in violation of international law, though.
          That's why I said "produced." All we need to do is go through the motions. Unlike Slobo, Saddam doesn't have many supporters around.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Winston
            If they release him, they just have to make sure it happens in the right neighbourhood. Then it shouldn't be a problem.

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            • #36
              As much as Saddam deserves punishment, I don't want the U.S. government "producing" anything to convict him. I'd rather they take their time and charge him when they have a good case, or turn him over to the Iraqis and let them do all the "producing".
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              • #37
                If we're going to start acting like the people we replaced, what was the point in replacing them? How do you justify overthrowing someone for violating international law, and then violate international law yourself?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                  As much as Saddam deserves punishment, I don't want the U.S. government "producing" anything to convict him. I'd rather they take their time and charge him when they have a good case, or turn him over to the Iraqis and let them do all the "producing".
                  Bah, the US Government's makes up crap all the time to convict people and justify power plays. It's nothing out of the ordinary for them.

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                  • #39
                    If we're going to start acting like the people we replaced, what was the point in replacing them? How do you justify overthrowing someone for violating international law, and then violate international law yourself?


                    Comparing this "violation" of international law with the violations of international law commited by Saddam Hussein is monumentally idiotic (and that's being kind).
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                    • #40
                      "Comparing this "violation" of international law with the violations of international law commited by Saddam Hussein is monumentally idiotic (and that's being kind)."

                      This is chegitz though.

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                      • #41
                        This is chegitz though.


                        I didn't say it was surprising, did I?
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                        • #42
                          Bah, seeing the Iraquis claim things have taken a turn for the worse, why not just put him back into power and get it over with.
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                          • #43
                            "Comparing this "violation" of international law with the violations of international law commited by Saddam Hussein is monumentally idiotic (and that's being kind)."


                            i would like it if those people who ***** about moral relativism (not you, drake... but those who are often conservative) would stop justifying their misdeeds or supporting misdeeds committed by their "side" by saying that what the other, "evil" people did was so much worse.

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                            • #44
                              True Q, pointing to the other side to justify your actions doesn't work.
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                              • #45
                                I wasn't justifying it based on Saddam's actions. I was just pointing out that saying that the U.S. is "acting like the people we replaced" is moronic.

                                I have completely different reasons for justifying this action by the United States.
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