NBA Finals

[cubbyphan1138]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia


hey if i was 7 ft tall and 350 lbs, i took could lay it up too. shaq's got one move. post up, back down, and dunk/layup. i mean, he can hardly dribble, and cant play d. i too would lead the league in FG% if every shot was a layup or a dunk. and if you cant shoot from outside the key, you cant shoot. its simple.

No if you were that big you couldn't lay it up too. There is a lot more to it than that. There are people as big as Shaq but they can't do what he does. And most of Shaq's points are scored on layups or dunks. Did you read the article? He has all kinds of moves. And shooting well does not just mean shooting from the outside. A turnaround or hook can be just as hard if not harder than shooting a wide open shot from 20 feet out, but Shaq does these things very well.

Stop saying Shaq can't play D. He has been an all-NBA defensive player 3 times and probably deserves more. Its also inaccurate to say he can hardly dribble. I have seen him lead fast breaks down the court and go coast to coast. And the moves he displays when he fakes and drives to the (which he did 3 times in a half in game 1 when Wallace tried to steal the ball) also show he can dribble.

If you don't like Shaq that's fine. He says a lot of stupid stuff, is extremely arrogant, and plays for a team that people hate. But to say he has no skill and all he does is dunks is ridiculous.

[Aeson]

Originally posted by JohnT
Aeson: All that proves is that Russell had a far better supporting cast than Wilt did.

Which was my point... Wilt averaged close to 30pts and 30rebs against Russell's Celtics. He won the individual matchup (Russell did pretty well himself, especially rebounding though) and the Celtics won the team matchup.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

No if you were that big you couldn't lay it up too.

are u kidding me? of course i could. i wouldnt even have to jump. you're crazy.

There are people as big as Shaq but they can't do what he does.

no theres not.

He has all kinds of moves.

yeah, the dunk and the layup from a postup. and maybe an alliyoup (sp?)

A turnaround or hook can be just as hard if not harder than shooting a wide open shot from 20 feet out

uh no. and when was the last time he did a hook shot?

Stop saying Shaq can't play D. He has been an all-NBA defensive player 3 times and probably deserves more. Its also inaccurate to say he can hardly dribble. I have seen him lead fast breaks down the court and go coast to coast. And the moves he displays when he fakes and drives to the (which he did 3 times in a half in game 1 when Wallace tried to steal the ball) also show he can dribble.

when? 7 years ago? and no its not inaccurate to say he cant dribble. everyone leads a fast break once. hell even yao did it. and by fakes do you mean pump fakes? cuz his only other move is to bulldoze over the other guy and dunk over him.

look at tim duncan, and kevin garnett. both just as tall as shaq, but all are 10 times better than shaq is at defense, dribbling, and shooting.

[OzzyKP]

I really don't have anything to contribute to this thread.

But.... GO PISTONS!!!

[Aeson]

uh no. and when was the last time he did a hook shot?

He hit a ~10f one in game one. It was one of those half-jump half-sky hooks from straight away. Most of his shots in game one were 4-8f.

He can hit the 6-10f turn around pretty well, uses the bank ok from the angles. Outside 10f he doesn't shoot, and shouldn't be shooting because he can always get closer with his size (except on free throws).

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I wish there was a way for Malone and Payton to win a title without Shaq and Kobe getting one more...

I cannot cheer for the Lakers.

They don't deserve the title.

Especially when an adulterer/alleged rapist hits the game winning shot.

BEN WALLACE PWNZ

[Tis I]

Deeeeeee-troit Bastket-ball!!!

[solar]

[Tuberski]

You guys talk about great centers, and I have not yet hear the name Kareem.

He was a better shooter, has better footwork, and he could pass, better than Shaq.

Plus, his skyhook was unstoppable.

Also, little hint, he is the all-time leading scorer.

ACK!

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I wish there was a way for Malone and Payton to win a title without Shaq and Kobe getting one more...

Malone should have won a title with the Jazz. He is the big reason I don't want the Lakers to win.

Malone: "I can't carry a team to a title, so lets join a team that has WON FOUR IN FIVE YEARS!!!!!!"

ACK!

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Aeson

Chamberlain averaged 50 ppg. So what does it tell you that he "only" scored 34.

[Jac de Molay]

Originally posted by Tuberski


Malone should have won a title with the Jazz. He is the big reason I don't want the Lakers to win.

Malone: "I can't carry a team to a title, so lets join a team that has WON FOUR IN FIVE YEARS!!!!!!"

ACK!

Not just that, but he's been one of the DIRTIEST players to ever lace up a pair of jimmy's. I like Payton, but Malone is one nasty SOB.

Great series so far. Lakers got b*tch-slapped by 20 pts. last night, and it's quite possible the Pistons could take all three at home. I don't think the Lakers have seen this kind of defense all season, and they look befuddled.

edit: And Olajuwon was the best all-around big man. Any seven-foot big man that can go from playing Soccer to the NBA has got serious motor skills.

[Drake Tungsten]

but he's been one of the DIRTIEST players to ever lace up a pair of jimmy's.

Malone is one nasty SOB.

Basketball needs more hard-asses. It's such a ***** sport.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Jac de Molay


Not just that, but he's been one of the DIRTIEST players to ever lace up a pair of jimmy's. I like Payton, but Malone is one nasty SOB.

I don't mind nasty SOB's, I just don't think he should try to buy a title. He had 2 chances and failed.

ACK!

[JohnT]

It's looking likely that the third time isn't going to be the charm, either.