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  • Originally posted by chegitz guevara


    Well, Black people demanded to be called Black, so I don't see a problem. But you tangentially raise an interesting point. If people have a problem with African-American, why don't they have a problem with Black. In fact, why aren't they demanding to be able to use "Negro" or even "colored?"

    Cause, like, did people really used to call blacks, like Negroes, huh? Did they like have Negro websites back in those days, like huh? Was that like, when that dude Reagan was President? Man, when that dude was shot, did like anyone capture the pics on their cell phones?
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    • Originally posted by chegitz guevara


      I just said I'd do it for some white people. Afrikaaners are white.
      And why would you do it for them and not others? I thought this was about the freedom of those to whom you are speaking, and not your own personal preferences.
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      • GePap, you're just further showing that the whole shindig with labels is pretty stupid.
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        • Originally posted by GePap


          Yes, it is. BUt the grand difference is that white people in Africa consider themselves white and Europeans-why then should we consider them not white or European?
          Actually most South African whites consider themselves African. Especially the Afrikaaners.
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          • Ok, lets get all the people of color together and let them vote on what they want to be called. You offend them if you call 'em black, you offend the other half if you call 'em African American. Yet they can call themselves ******s and are fine with it...

            Lables are a necessity I don't care what it is. I don't care if it's The Gods, The Mighty Race, or whatever. I just need to be able to describe them to the cops after they steal my sneakers without offending them.
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            • “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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              • Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                That's why they eat specially prepared foods if they keep to dietary law.

                Anyway, your first sentence prooves you're a jerk, so your opinion is really invalid.
                Thats also why most of them sneak eating those "bad" foods. My best friend in college was jewish and we always had fun eating pork sausage burritos, his words were always the same"just hope my dad never finds out". Cmon Cheg do you really think eating a certain food could possibly be seen as bad by the gods?Dietary law, that sounds like some FDA proposed crap. If you really really truly believe that, then your a bigger idiot than I and certainly have an invalid opinion also. The gods would be far more concerned with right and just living, and really an animal is an animal to a god. Religious laws and attitudes based on a world many centuries far gone are even more foolish than people wanting to be called or calling others ******s. So far we have come in science and invention yet for some reason people still want to live in a world of flat earth, sea monsters, and the right to murder in gods name.
                Mr. Fun actually I am a great friend, one who doesn't allow fools to be my friends. Religion deciding ones menu is as foolish as religion deciding ones sexual orientation as you should know! We all live for ourselves, not for some god that for all of recorded time no one has yet to see without mass stress, craziness or drug induced insanities. Ok enough rant from me, time to eat some pork chops with lots of pork fat dripped gravy So now that I am dark tanned would I be considered a colored person

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                • kashrut from a reconstructionist perspective, with a few words on "eco-kashrut"

                  http://www.coejl.org/learn/je_weintraub.shtml
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                  • awesome article Lord, always good to get more facts about a subject. Honestly I was not aware that rabbits were off limits too. Funny that so much time and effort is put into classifying food groups.

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                    • Originally posted by vlad
                      Thats also why most of them sneak eating those "bad" foods.
                      Do you know most of the 14 million Jews, 1 billion+ Moslems, and members of other religions that have dietary laws? Hell, even most Catholics don't eat meat on Friday during Lent. I knew a Moslem girl who refused to date guys who ate pork. "No lips that touch pork will ever touch mine." She wasn't alone.

                      Cmon Cheg do you really think eating a certain food could possibly be seen as bad by the gods?


                      There are no gods, but to those who believe in such things, they often do think their gods see such things as bad. Religion is an intimate part of a person's life, just as much as a person's self-identity. You mess with them at your peril.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • Originally posted by Lorizael
                        And why would you do it for them and not others?
                        Because they're from Africa.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • Originally posted by GePap


                          most certainly yes.
                          I resent that you're calling me white.
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                          • Originally posted by Azazel


                            I resent that you're calling me white.
                            hi whitey -- what's up?
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                            • Shut up, gay boy! Racism is for the real men.
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                              • Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                                Because they're from Africa.
                                Then you are a hypocrite. It's not about choice for you. It's about what you feel is appropriate and right. In the end, if you don't want to call someone African-American, you won't. Consistency, che. It's all about consistency.

                                Maybe a completely white person admires African culture, and wishes to be alligned with it. That's essentially the same as how blacks feel, because they no longer have any true connection to their homeland but for the fact that - oh look race! - they've got brown skin.
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