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  • Originally posted by Last Conformist
    Reality? The kind of identities we're speaking of reside solely in peoples minds - they have the same kind of reality as do dreams, aspirations, prejudices. Why should someone born and bread in America identify as Italian? I don't deny that some do, but I find it even less sensible than what you normally get with socioethnic identities.
    So? Believing in Christianity can be something that resides soley in a person's mind. Same with being a Yankees fan, a mathematician, or dozens of other things. The fact that it is a state of mind does not make it false.

    Besides, the kind of identities we're talking about are not just about beliefs. I'm Chinese-Canadian. Physically, I'm partially Chinese. To deny that is crazy.

    Everyone describes themselves in different ways. This does not irreparable divide us. These are just statement of facts.

    To object to hyphenated nationalities is like saying you object to people calling themselves Yankee fans.
    Golfing since 67

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    • chegitz, i'd love to respond but i stopped reading at this point..

      Have you ever noticed how Black people tend not to speak English properly?
      even you're a racist. what kind of sick world is this?
      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • Originally posted by Albert Speer
        chegitz, i'd love to respond but i stopped reading at this point..

        even you're a racist. what kind of sick world is this?
        Yeah, whatever, Speer. If you wanna pretend that Black English Vernacular is the same thing as Standard American English, you go ahead and live in your own little world.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • A bit on topic and a bit off my friend has recently taken to calling me wigger or ******, wigger while around people, ****** while amongst friends.

          The Eskimos up here call white people tunnuks**, its supposed to be derogitory* but I've gotten so used to it being used in everyday speach I honestly cant believe for a second they really mean it as an insult.

          I also call my Eskimo friends Indians and my Indian friends Eskimos, they dont like that too much.

          not once in my life have I refered to a black person as African American, and not once in my life have I been told to do so by anyone other than a white person.

          *Im too lazy to check my spelling
          **thats not spelled right Im sure, but Im not going to even venture a guess as to what the appropriate spelling is.



          off the topic a wee bit, I found out the other day that I really am an apprentice turd-herder!

          Hi ho, hi ho, its off to work I go!!

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          • Originally posted by Albert Speer

            even you're a racist. what kind of sick world is this?

            Strong words coming from someone who made an insensitive, distasteful comment about interracial couples awhile back.
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • Well he's only dishing out what che has done. He seems to through around the racist charge almost as much as Al Sharpton.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • I'm a racist even though I spearheaded a minority recruitment initiative at my parents place, and prefer to use the term African-American, even to the point of insisting that it is the polite thing to do unless otherwise asked.

                Che's a racist even though he is married to an African-American.

                Speers not a racist because he and his buds are comfortable throwing the word ****** around.

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                • I have no problems with blacks using the word "******" among themselves.

                  Just as I use the word "******" or "queer" when I'm with friends who I know will see my use of those words as being playful and when I know it's the right time and place to use those words.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • Originally posted by JohnT
                    I'm a racist even though I spearheaded a minority recruitment initiative at my parents place, and prefer to use the term African-American, even to the point of insisting that it is the polite thing to do unless otherwise asked.
                    Good on you John. A) for starting a minority recruitment initiative and B) for wanting to do the polite thing.

                    The extreme PC thing pisses me off as much as the next person (What's so wrong with using the word "oriental"), but in the end, political correctness is about being polite. Respect the other person. What's so wrong about that.
                    Golfing since 67

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                    • To object to hyphenated nationalities is like saying you object to people calling themselves Yankee fans.


                      I do object to people identifying as Yankee fans.
                      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                      The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                      • Originally posted by Last Conformist
                        To object to hyphenated nationalities is like saying you object to people calling themselves Yankee fans.


                        I do object to people identifying as Yankee fans.
                        Nah, I don't object. I just think why?
                        Golfing since 67

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                        • Imran:

                          i only call liberals and leftists racists. i have enough sense to know conservatives are not racist.
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • and i dont say ******, johnt. it's just plain a nasty word. you can tell a word is bad when the sound of the consonents and what not just sound derogatory.

                            then again, a lot of german sounds the same way but still
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • Then I am utterly flummoxed by your response to my initial post in this thread.

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                              • Originally posted by Albert Speer
                                Imran:

                                i only call liberals and leftists racists. i have enough sense to know conservatives are not racist.
                                You're no better then racists then, if you are so bigoted as to label liberals and leftists racists.
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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