Even if you allow that it's reasonable to torture someone in such an extreme circumstance...
The problem is you can't be sure there is even anything to torture them for. If you knew, you wouldn't need to torture them for that information. You'd have proof.. the bomb is there... see?
You don't know if you're torturing the right person. If you knew, you wouldn't need to torture them. You'd have proof, they just planted the bomb over there.. see?
You don't know if you're going to get the necessary information through torture. He just said the bomb is in a stairwell on 53rd street. It'll take a couple minutes to get a bomb squad there. If it's not there... it'll be too late... so do we keep torturing? If you know what he has to say, which justifying the torture requires, you don't need to torture for the information.
You don't even know if there will be anything you can do about it even if you got the right guy and the right method to make him talk. Yah, he tells you were the bomb is, it's going off right now...
All you know is that you are torturing someone. That's a given. Everything else is guessing, and torturing someone on a guess isn't justifiable.
Once it's allowed in one situation, who's to say what exactly fits that situation... the person wanting to torture you? It's time critical, so only the person ready and willing to do the job could make the call. Doesn't seem like a very smart power to give to a sadist. To properly have it checked, you'd need a court order, and that would take more time than the scenario would allow for. If there's more time, you don't need to torture.
So it comes back down to torturing someone or not. Forget the scenarios, it's a moral thing. People who feel they have the right to inflict pain and suffering on others are the problem, and torturing them only makes you part of the problem too.
The problem is you can't be sure there is even anything to torture them for. If you knew, you wouldn't need to torture them for that information. You'd have proof.. the bomb is there... see?
You don't know if you're torturing the right person. If you knew, you wouldn't need to torture them. You'd have proof, they just planted the bomb over there.. see?
You don't know if you're going to get the necessary information through torture. He just said the bomb is in a stairwell on 53rd street. It'll take a couple minutes to get a bomb squad there. If it's not there... it'll be too late... so do we keep torturing? If you know what he has to say, which justifying the torture requires, you don't need to torture for the information.
You don't even know if there will be anything you can do about it even if you got the right guy and the right method to make him talk. Yah, he tells you were the bomb is, it's going off right now...
All you know is that you are torturing someone. That's a given. Everything else is guessing, and torturing someone on a guess isn't justifiable.
Once it's allowed in one situation, who's to say what exactly fits that situation... the person wanting to torture you? It's time critical, so only the person ready and willing to do the job could make the call. Doesn't seem like a very smart power to give to a sadist. To properly have it checked, you'd need a court order, and that would take more time than the scenario would allow for. If there's more time, you don't need to torture.
So it comes back down to torturing someone or not. Forget the scenarios, it's a moral thing. People who feel they have the right to inflict pain and suffering on others are the problem, and torturing them only makes you part of the problem too.
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