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  • Don't call it a non-goal, even the Tampa Bay Tribune concedes it was a goal now.
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    • Originally posted by Asher
      Don't call it a non-goal, even the Tampa Bay Tribune concedes it was a goal now.
      Hey, I'm bitter too, but if it isn't on the scoresheet...

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      • I really hope Gary Bettman and the other NHL execs make a trip to Calgary sometime soon. I think they're the most hated men in Calgary's history right now.
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        • King Sutter said it wasn't a goal.

          Hence, a non-goal it was.
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          • ^ Oh, come on, Asher. Did you watch the ABC feed tonight? They did a computer reconstruction of the shot based on the one replay they had, and concluded it was about 3/4 of the way across the line, but not all the way over. All it takes is a couple inches of elevation to change where that puck ultimately was and still look like it was in from that angle.

            You wanna *****, ***** about the fact that the Flames played like crap for 50 minutes and Iginla completely ran out of gas in games 6 & 7.

            And Sava, if you think this year's playoffs were worse than last year's, I gotta ask if you wear glasses -- if so, check the prescription; if not, get them. That game 7, at least the last ten minutes, was way better than the snooze-fest that was last year's NJ/Anaheim game 7, and never mind the rest of the playoffs. Unless you actually like Minnesota/Anaheim-style series, that is, in which case there's just no hope for ya .
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            • Originally posted by cinch
              King Sutter said it wasn't a goal.

              Hence, a non-goal it was.
              Sutter said it wasn't a goal because he didn't want the team fixated on it, and needed to move on since he knew nothing would be done. He thought the Flames would play harder thinking they lost that game legitly than if they played hard enough to win. I thought that was obvious...
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              • This was one of the best playoffs that I've ever seen, hands-down.

                Beats the crap out of the preceding 8 years of NewJersey-Detroit-Colorado-Dallas-repeat bullcrap.

                And to be fair to Iggy: he didn't ENTIRELY run out of gas... he just wasn't hitting quite the hits he did earlier, in part due to fatigue, but also due to Tampa's tightening D. He still had a few great plays in the last 120 minutes.
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                • Originally posted by optimus2861
                  ^ Oh, come on, Asher. Did you watch the ABC feed tonight?
                  No, I was at a bar and they were showing CBC.

                  They did a computer reconstruction of the shot based on the one replay they had, and concluded it was about 3/4 of the way across the line, but not all the way over. All it takes is a couple inches of elevation to change where that puck ultimately was and still look like it was in from that angle.
                  Erm, a computer reconstruction can say whatever the person doing it wants it to say. Haven't you seen the photoshop threads? How can a puck be 3/4 across the line with white on either side of it?

                  You wanna *****, ***** about the fact that the Flames played like crap for 50 minutes and Iginla completely ran out of gas in games 6 & 7.
                  I already said they outplayed us in game 7 (I don't think they outplayed us in Game 6).
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                  • Originally posted by Asher

                    Sutter said it wasn't a goal because he didn't want the team fixated on it, and needed to move on since he knew nothing would be done. He thought the Flames would play harder thinking they lost that game legitly than if they played hard enough to win. I thought that was obvious...
                    Don't insult your team by turning this into a petty whine-fest.

                    It wasn't conclusively a goal, the ref called nothing: hence, it was not a goal.

                    Would you like the NHL to reverse its call, even though it was correct, and give the Cup to Calgary?

                    'Cause I assure you, they would not accept it. No one wants to win on a technicality. But we don't have to worry about that, because, hey, it was not a goal.

                    Congrats to Calgary on a great season, even though they came up in short in the end... fair and square.
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                    • Sutter will get his wrist slapped now that it is over.

                      The officials were between a rock and hard place with those two teams. A highly skilled, puck carrying team vs. a grinding, dump and chase forechecking team. If you call a low amount of penalties, you benefit the Flames, and old-fashioned hockey fans love you for "letting them play". If you call more penalties, you benefit Tampa, and the segment of fans aching for more skill, no fighting (clutching, grabbing), etc. love you.

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                      • Nah that's just a weak attempt to save the face of NHL. It was in........................ because our papers said so.
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                        • Originally posted by optimus2861
                          ^ One reason and one alone: Dave Andreychuk. How can you beat your head in at watching a guy who's toiled in the league for 22 years finally get his Cup?
                          Easily -- because the guy didn't do a f*cking thing this whole playoff race. He was even in the penalty box when the game was won. That's the extent of his contribution to his team. Oh, lest I forget his one goal.

                          I'm happier that stellar players like Richards got the goal, Andreychuk draws my pity and anger that he lucked out.
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                          • Originally posted by cinch
                            Don't insult your team by turning this into a petty whine-fest.

                            It wasn't conclusively a goal, the ref called nothing: hence, it was not a goal.
                            Of course it wasn't officially a goal. It was conclusively a goal if you can see the damn picture. I honestly don't know how anyone can stare at that picture and insist that the puck is NOT on the ice, AND that the puck was NOT over the line.

                            Would you like the NHL to reverse its call, even though it was correct, and give the Cup to Calgary?

                            'Cause I assure you, they would not accept it. No one wants to win on a technicality.
                            Erm. It's not winning on a technicality, if they reversed their call, it would be winning fair and square.

                            Winning on a technicality would be forcing a game 7 on an obvious goal because the league has a policy not to change the outcome of a game after it happened.
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                            • Andreychuk contributed leadership to his team while playing hard-nosed hockey night-in and night-out.

                              Sitting on the puck, giving yourself an edge in faceoffs, working guys hard into the boards, finishing checks... that's the type of inglorious, ugly hockey that Dave excels at. Just because he doesn't have the flash of a Vinny or a St. Louis, doesn't mean he didn't contribute.
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                              "A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice."- Thomas Paine
                              "I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." -Bob Dylan

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                              • Originally posted by Asher

                                Easily -- because the guy didn't do a f*cking thing this whole playoff race. He was even in the penalty box when the game was won. That's the extent of his contribution to his team. Oh, lest I forget his one goal.

                                I'm happier that stellar players like Richards got the goal, Andreychuk draws my pity and anger that he lucked out.
                                As a rule, I'm not a fan of veterans past their prime, but that's not really fair. What he provided was veteran leadership - which is not quantifiable in a box score. Without his calming presence they likely would not have gotten there.

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