Homosexual help

[Asher]

I have no fashion taste, I'm a clothing utilitarian.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Pax Africanus
When I said maybe you should also I meant that you should speak to the black kids when you see the crass behavior.

Erm, no thank you. These fellows usually look like they'd not be pleased with having their manners corrected in public. Besides, unless they are specifically harrassing someone, they're allowed to behave as they please. And I'm allowed to ignore them.

[East Street Trader]

I am not the most socially sensitive person you will ever meet - social undercurrents which would be blatantly obvious to most regularly pass me by.

And sexual preference is one of the things I often just don't pick up on.

There have been several people whom I have known for years and then felt quite surprised when someone told me they are gay.

But I move in rather restrained social circles where flamboyant behaviour from almost anybody - gay or straight - is rare.

But I used slightly to share your prejudice when, thirty years or so back and more, the standard portrayal in film or book of a homosexual was of someone camping it up, addressing everyone as "dear", mincing along rather than walking and flaunting absurdly ill fitting women's clothing most of the time.

I do not think I have met a single person in real life who affects any of these things.

There is a new sort of affectation emerging on the internet. Among kids of 11 to about 15 homosexual innuendo is becoming about the commonest sort of banter. Almost none of the children say anything which makes you think they are actually homosexual so quite why homosexual eroticism should figure in their chat so freely I can't really imagine. It can be quite unattractive, though.

[Jarouik]

Originally posted by East Street Trader
There is a new sort of affectation emerging on the internet. Among kids of 11 to about 15 homosexual innuendo is becoming about the commonest sort of banter. Almost none of the children say anything which makes you think they are actually homosexual so quite why homosexual eroticism should figure in their chat so freely I can't really imagine. It can be quite unattractive, though.

It might have to do with the fact that most people in their teens are insecure about their sexuality and in most cases interested in both sexes, because sexual identity isn't as established in that age...

Considering girls of that age live in another world and boys are around other boys all the time, it is only natural their banter would have sexual over- and undertones - it is their only way to address their emerging sexuality. At least in my childhood that was the case, though my friends turned out to be straight while I'm gay myself.

[Solly]

"Some gays act feminine because that is part of who they really are."

[Provost Harrison]

Ah, Stew the philanthropist has arrived

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by MrFun
I find positive stereotypes of gays bothersome too.

Ooooo, I actually agree with Mr Fun about something

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by East Street Trader
There is a new sort of affectation emerging on the internet. Among kids of 11 to about 15 homosexual innuendo is becoming about the commonest sort of banter. Almost none of the children say anything which makes you think they are actually homosexual so quite why homosexual eroticism should figure in their chat so freely I can't really imagine. It can be quite unattractive, though.

Maybe you're just not up on modern teen culture, but when I was in high school and college, homosexual innuendo was extremely common. Guys were always engaged in such banter, but the tone (which is hard to guage in chat) wasn't what you think--there was a mockery and menace to it (at least, that's how it seemed to a gay kid at the time).

[Solly]

"Gay" is like the most used insult now isn't it.

[Boris Godunov]

Try and convince Agathon and Drake of that.

[Solly]

What Boris? It's hardly a compliment.

[Boris Godunov]

I'm well aware of that, thank you. But Aggie and Drake tried to convince us that when people used "gay" as an insult, it had no connection to homosexuals. It was one of the most ludicrous stretches of logic I've seen 'round these parts.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Actually a lot of times it really isn't.

[Solly]

Well it doesn't really. It's just gay as a negative description kind of things. Homosexuals shouldn't be bothered really, they can just carry on.

[Tiamat]

Then what is it if it isn't an insult?