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  • #61
    'Frasier' wasn't camp all the time, and even when it was camp, the irony of two fictional straight men being portrayed in such a camp way was funny. Add in Daphne's bizarre mutating Manchester accent (and the fact that the actor playing Frasier's father was born in Manchester) her brother's absurd 'Mockney' transatlantic accent, the non-appearance of Maris, Ros Doyle's vigorous libido and an out gay actor playing the obnoxiously heterosexual Bulldog, and you have ironies galore and the potential for a great deal of extremely funny situations, and more to the point, the escalating disaster farce/comedy that 'Frasier' did so well- I mention only the restaurant episode, 'Les Freres Heureux' as a case in point.




    A wonderful smart comedy and one of the best of all time! The contrast between Frasier/Niles and their father was always hilarious. That 'Duke and the Dutchess' quip in the finale was utterly side-splitting and so apt for John Mahoney's character.

    And rarely 'camp'.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #62
      Too bad I can't take the opinion of a Reagan shoe-shine boy seriously.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Asher

        Trust me, I've been in the entertainment biz longer than you have, hun.

        Does working for an escort service truly qualify one as part of "the entertainment biz"?

        You weren't the tranny hooker Dannie punched out, were you ?!?!?
        There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Asher




          Vomit.

          However, as a rejoinder, you haven't shown that being camp rules out being funny, nor that 'La Cage Aux Folles' and Charles Peirce weren't funny.

          So go eat a moose burger in maple syrup.

          Uncle Sparky- 'Fawlty Towers' also did farce successfully- although it wasn't North American.
          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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          • #65
            Too bad I can't take the opinion of a Reagan shoe-shine boy seriously.


            Did someone not funny say something?
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Too bad I can't take the opinion of a Reagan shoe-shine boy seriously.


              Did someone not funny say something?

              me
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by molly bloom

                Uncle Sparky- 'Fawlty Towers' also did farce successfully- although it wasn't North American.
                Correct, of course, I should have specified American TV.
                There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                • #68
                  too many inconsequential episodes of non-things not happening to nebbishy people


                  Well, that was the point (er... non-point) of Seinfeld which millions (including myself) loved. It was a show about nothing and didn't pretend to be anything. It's my favorite series of all time. Followed closely by Frasier, though.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    too many inconsequential episodes of non-things not happening to nebbishy people


                    Well, that was the point (er... non-point) of Seinfeld which millions (including myself) loved. It was a show about nothing and didn't pretend to be anything. It's my favorite series of all time. Followed closely by Frasier, though.
                    And it was the point whioch caused me (and millions of others) not to enjoy it.

                    I don't care for Woody Allen's humour either, but I usually enjoy New York Jewish humour, and Yiddish/Jewish humour in general. Chacun a son ragout....
                    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                    • #70
                      And it was the point whioch caused me (and millions of others) not to enjoy it.


                      Ah, but that 'point' was enough to make it a ratings God, and that was all that counted. Yes, there are many who hate that fact of the show, but a majority did love it enough to have TV Guide rate it as their #1 sitcom of all time.

                      But it depends, like most things, on what your tastes are. Even those that didn't really like it could at least admit it was better than Friends (ok, not saying much) .

                      I guess my point is that the non-point of the show may not be a negative, though it depends on what che likes (he's the one who did 'miss out' on it).
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #71
                        uhh everything really.

                        If it's popular, you can bet I never listen to it.

                        Ricky Martin, that country singer dude, Boys 2 men, mariah carey. never heard them.

                        I haven't even heard Nirvana's nevermind until months later (although I was in boot camp and couldn't listen to music )

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Dissident
                          uhh everything really.

                          If it's popular, you can bet I never listen to it.
                          Luciano Pavarotti, Queen, Billie Holiday, Nina Simone, Frank Sinatra....

                          There's popular and then there's popular. After all, even the Bible is popular culture.
                          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                          • #73
                            I like queen of that list. They may have been popular at one time, but that was before my time.

                            so technically I'm not on a band wagon. They were never popular when I started liking them.

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                            • #74
                              It's quite a popular trend to brag about how you like nothing popular.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #75
                                There's some series called '24' that I haven't seen a minute off. But for some reason I get the impression that it's a popular serier. I guess it's 'cause people seems to assume that I'm watching it.

                                Furthermore, I'm still not sure what song JohnT's talkning about in the opening post. Sure, I must have heard it but I haven't burdened my brain with that information.

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