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  • Originally posted by GePap
    Well, why not? Why should the darkies, the spanish (including recent immigranst) be the ones dying for whitey?
    Because they were the ones who signed up. They weren't forced to.

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    • Originally posted by GePap
      Cause you are the ONLY one to ever bring that up-and I have not seen many other anywhere make the claim.
      You haven't?

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      • Well, why not? Why should the darkies, the spanish (including recent immigranst) be the ones dying for whitey?


        Because they volunteered? Duh...
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        • Which is why conscription is a much fairer system - it doesn't(as much) discriminate against those of a poorer background.

          I think if we broadly support our governments view and actions on war, we should at least have the balls to eat the cake of our own making.

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          • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

            Because they volunteered? Duh...
            Well, one would wonder why people not served best by the system would be the ones signing to defend it (why si whitey so unpatriotic?) until of course you realize for darkies and spanish this might be the best job they can get in the system, with low pay, yes, but nice benefits for furthering themselves.

            So the fact the system serves darkie and spanish bad is why they end up protecting whitey's unpatriotic butt.

            Which is why some darkies and spanish woudl like to haul whitey's butt into the service so they get a taste.
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            • Originally posted by GePap


              Well, one would wonder why people not served best by the system would be the ones signing to defend it (why si whitey so unpatriotic?) until of course you realize for darkies and spanish this might be the best job they can get in the system, with low pay, yes, but nice benefits for furthering themselves.

              So the fact the system serves darkie and spanish bad is why they end up protecting whitey's unpatriotic butt.

              Which is why some darkies and spanish woudl like to haul whitey's butt into the service so they get a taste.
              No comment, just wanted to make sure that GePap didn't erase language that polite society hasn't spoken in near half a century.

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              • Originally posted by GePap


                Well, one would wonder why people not served best by the system would be the ones signing to defend it (why si whitey so unpatriotic?) until of course you realize for darkies and spanish this might be the best job they can get in the system, with low pay, yes, but nice benefits for furthering themselves.

                So the fact the system serves darkie and spanish bad is why they end up protecting whitey's unpatriotic butt.

                Which is why some darkies and spanish woudl like to haul whitey's butt into the service so they get a taste.
                Excepting the fact that the services are 70% white? Just like the country?

                Gotta love the Left... protested the draft for nigh on 15 years, only to want it when it isn't your war.

                Like I said: the Left isn't about equality and fairness, it's about revenge and hate. It's not that people are dying, its that the wrong people are dying. :insert vomit smilie here:
                Last edited by JohnT; April 23, 2004, 12:59.

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                • One wonders how this argument (only poor black/hispanic people join the army) flies in light of the news regarding the white rich NFL player who died today in Afghanistan. I think I'll be told that one example does not an argument make, which I'll be sure to throw back at them when they use their own anecdotal evidence to prove their points.

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                  • Originally posted by JohnT
                    One wonders how this argument (only poor black/hispanic people join the army) flies in light of the news regarding the white rich NFL player who died today in Afghanistan. I think I'll be told that one example does not an argument make, which I'll be sure to throw back at them when they use their own anecdotal evidence to prove their points.
                    Sometimes one exception proves the rule. However I don't know if it is true that minorities are over-represented in the armed forces. I think that is kind of getting off course. The real question is if the poor are over-represented in the armed forces -specifically frontline combat duty.

                    For instance in the latest pay-adjustments the airforce personel were given a 7 percent payrise, while the Army personel was given only a 1.8 percent payrise.

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                    • Originally posted by JohnT


                      No comment, just wanted to make sure that GePap didn't erase language that polite society hasn't spoken in near half a century.


                      That was the point.
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                      • Originally posted by JohnT


                        Excepting the fact that the services are 70% white? Just like the country?
                        If you are talking about all the services combined, I have no doubt. If you talk about the infantry and marines IIRC the ratio includes is tilted more towards minorities, though the SF are almost monotone white.

                        Gotta love the Left... protested the draft for nigh on 15 years, only to want it when it isn't your war.
                        Can't you try better? The guys proposing this are Hegel, Biden, and Rangel. Now, feel free and reserach their record on it. "THe Left" you mention though does NOT support the draft.

                        Like I said: the Left isn't about equality and fairness, it's about revenge and hate. It's not that people are dying, its that the wrong people are dying. :insert vomit smilie here:
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                        • Originally posted by Tripledoc


                          Sometimes one exception proves the rule. However I don't know if it is true that minorities are over-represented in the armed forces. I think that is kind of getting off course.
                          For the purpose of Rangel, this is precisely the point as in my opinion he could care less about poor economicaly challenged white folk.

                          The broader issue you raise may have merit but is not IMO the motivation for Rangel.
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                          • Originally posted by JohnT
                            One wonders how this argument (only poor black/hispanic people join the army) flies in light of the news regarding the white rich NFL player who died today in Afghanistan. I think I'll be told that one example does not an argument make, which I'll be sure to throw back at them when they use their own anecdotal evidence to prove their points.
                            Go ahead to use what is a valid point. I use it all the time myself.
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                            • IIRC, btw, in the combat forces in the USA, ethnically, there are more "whites" than country-wide.

                              just my 2c.

                              you can continue your internal bickering.
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                              • Well, the special forces are almost all white.
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