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  • The most depressing "conversation" I've had in a while

    I just got out of my Comparative World Religion class a little bit ago, and, after watching our third film on Islam this week, and turning in all of our papers associated with various readings we've done over the past three weeks, our substitute teacher decides we're going to have a "conversation" about what we think of Islam now and if our perceptions had changed. The next 20 minutes was filled with condemnations of the violence of Islam and how Christianity is this great religion without any problems, and how people who aren't Christian are going to hell. I could barely get a word in edgewise, and when I did, I was almost immediately shouted down by a significant number of fanatics. I'm pretty sure they didn't even hear or care what I had to say. And this is the next generation of adults in the US.
    "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
    "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
    "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

  • #2
    Ack.

    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • #3
      Some of them may wisen up, but unfortunately ignorance and generalities often run wild in times like these.

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      • #4
        The professor obviously wasn't doing his job.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #5
          The irony must be what's killing you.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #6
            I wouldn't judge the next generation of adults in the US by getting a census from a Religious Studies course, in college, from a bunch of fanatics...

            Most people of religion (here I go with my generalizations) are unable to question their faith and this makes them ignorant to it... Faith is something that comes without question. There have only been a hand full of christians whom I have been able to have a meaningful, non-confrontational, discussion about religion with. One being Ben Kenobi
            Monkey!!!

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            • #7
              In my experience, a good number of people who take religion classes are usually not interested in approaching such issues with an open mind any way. So don't be too disheartened.
              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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              • #8
                Re: The most depressing "conversation" I've had in a while

                Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
                I could barely get a word in edgewise, and when I did, I was almost immediately shouted down by a significant number of fanatics. I'm pretty sure they didn't even hear or care what I had to say.
                A good thing to do here is to stand on the table, and stare people down.

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                • #9
                  I guess the other thing that strikes me is the effect that mass media has had on this group of students (high school, by the way ). Even after reading legitimate papers on Islam, and even after watching legitimate documentaries on the subject, these students were still taking their ideas from things they saw on national news networks just hours or days after 9/11. Even an atheist talked about the "hundreds of people dancing in the streets". What's even more ironic is that the teacher just had us read a Newsweek piece from October, 2001 about why the Arab world hates us. It pointed out that the particular brand of extremism that the terrorists of 9/11 adhered to comes primarily from failed Arab states. I watched the guy sitting next to me read it during our last class. He ignored every word of it today.
                  "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                  "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                  "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                  • #10
                    You should be happy that people are so sleepy, because that means that you will get good grades, if the teacher is ok and the grading is curved.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
                      ... this group of students (high school, by the way ).
                      Well now I know that they will wisen up.

                      ... the real world will kick (almost) everyone in the face sooner or later, So don't be too concerned about it.

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                      • #12
                        Did anyone happen to know the difference between Arab and Muslim?

                        Comparative religion class in HS? Don't fret.
                        If you don't like reality, change it! me
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                        • #13
                          Did anyone happen to know the difference between Arab and Muslim?
                          They certainly should. It's been beaten into us with a stick. The first day we started talking about it, the teacher made a very big deal about listing primarily Muslim nations, and listing Arab nations, and giving us the numbers, which clearly demonstrated that the vast majority of Muslims are not Arabs. On top of that, a number of assigned readings and at least one of the films pointed it out. However, people just seemed to revert to using the Arab world as the standard of conduct for the rest of the Muslim world.
                          "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                          "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                          "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                          • #14
                            Then accept those classmates of yours are as dense as bricks and deplore them simply for their general lack of notetaking ability.
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #15
                              You can tell people things any number of times - if they don't want to learn they won't learn.
                              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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