Just curious... Does anything in this article cause anyone here to be outraged?

[Elok]

Re: the semantics, "pro-abortion" upsets the 'choicers because, in their own words, they find it icky. "Anti-choice," on the other hand, is not a good term because people reflexively respond poorly to "anti"-ANYTHING, and the idea of being denied any form of freedom, no matter what that freedom is, feeds a peculiar form of paranoid psychosis common to all democracies. If the issue were whether we had a right to choose to mug old ladies, the term "anti-choice" would still invoke a gut reaction. It's loaded language. So Pro-Life, Pro-Choice, let's play nice.

[Sava]

I'm anti-terrorism! is that good or bad?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I am. I believe in mandatory abortions for everyone.

Retroactive, too?

[Elok]

The "anti-" is slightly bad, but countered by the "terrorism" when the brain catches up and puts it in context. However, to use your example, you might as well be called "anti-choice" for wanting to take away the individual Wahhabist whackjob's right to carbomb an embassy. Never mind that from your POV, the aspect of "choice" is utterly irrelevant; you're still "anti-choice," are you not?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
It was this qccursed French keyboqrd; I sweqr. The keys tend to be in the wrong plqce.

Great sig material though

[Sava]

Originally posted by Elok
The "anti-" is slightly bad, but countered by the "terrorism" when the brain catches up and puts it in context. However, to use your example, you might as well be called "anti-choice" for wanting to take away the individual Wahhabist whackjob's right to carbomb an embassy. Never mind that from your POV, the aspect of "choice" is utterly irrelevant; you're still "anti-choice," are you not?

but we're not talking about wahhabi whackjobs (although I'm sure they are against abortion too), we're talking about abortion. "anti-choice" when referring to abortion is the truest description of those people. They are against women having a choice about their own reproductive system. Those people certainly aren't "pro-life" because they most often believe in the death penalty and are pro-war when it comes to Iraq. There are some people that are truly pro-life, but those are like Buddhist monks who think it's wrong to step on ants.

The abortion debate isn't about life or death. It's about whether or not a woman has a right to make choices about her own body. Plain and simple. The anti-choice people might say otherwise, but who cares? They are all hypocrits and religious whackjobs anyways.

[Kuciwalker]

but we're not talking about wahhabi whackjobs (although I'm sure they are against abortion too), we're talking about abortion. "anti-choice" when referring to abortion is the truest description of those people. They are against women having a choice about their own reproductive system. Those people certainly aren't "pro-life" because they most often believe in the death penalty and are pro-war when it comes to Iraq. There are some people that are truly pro-life, but those are like Buddhist monks who think it's wrong to step on ants.

Of course they are pro-life - they are for the life fo the fetus. They don't have to be pro- ALL life (for example, people guilty of murder), just like you aren't pro- ALL choice (such as killing someone)

[DinoDoc]

Then get UR to stop whining about the term pro-abortion.

[Imran Siddiqui]

No, no... his continual whining is a sign of my successful troll

[Sava]

Of course they are pro-life - they are for the life fo the fetus. They don't have to be pro- ALL life (for example, people guilty of murder), just like you aren't pro- ALL choice (such as killing someone)

as usual you are wrong...

the only people who are truly pro-life are buddhist monks... everyone else is a hypocrit

DD: why? UR is right about that. Pro-choice advocates aren't pro-abortion necessarily. I think abortions are bad things, and in a perfect world, wouldn't exist. But this world isn't perfect, and I'd rather live in a world with abortions than in a world where a government, or some sanctimonious, holier than thou ******* can control a woman's body.

It just goes to show all those anti-choice people who claim to be for small government are hypocrits once again. I can't think of a greater abuse of government power than placing laws on a woman's reproductive system.

Why are our birthdays the day we get shoved out of the womb? Society recognizes that a human life starts when we are born. A pizza is done when it comes out of the oven, not when you first mix the dough.

[Imran Siddiqui]

the only people who are truly pro-life are buddhist monks... everyone else is a hypocrit

Then the only people who are truely pro-choice are nihilists and anarchists... everyone else is a hypocrit.

Therefore Pro-abortion and Anti-abortion are valid terms. Unless you want to use Pro-abortion-choice.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Sava
as usual you are wrong...

the only people who are truly pro-life are buddhist monks... everyone else is a hypocrit

Wonderful counter... I'm completely convinced I was wrong now.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

the only people who are truly pro-life are buddhist monks... everyone else is a hypocrit

Then the only people who are truely pro-choice are nihilists and anarchists... everyone else is a hypocrit.

Therefore Pro-abortion and Anti-abortion are valid terms. Unless you want to use Pro-abortion-choice.

yay Imran just said I was right!

[Sava]

skywalker, it's already been established that you are unable to think critically...

there are two kinds of people in this world... people able to think critically, are pragmatic, have an open mind, have a thirst for knowledge, and seek to understand things... and then there are the dopes.

Nothing that I can say will ever change your mind about anything... hence, my classification of you stands.

[Kuciwalker]