And then God said "April Fool!"

[DinoDoc]

Wutang is for the children!

[loinburger]

Sweet Sauce is for the Jones!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by loinburger
CurtSibling was the first (and pretty much only) person to use the term, and he was quite vocal about his low opinion of religious people. The term has an extremely negative connotation as a result.

But the term has been in quite widespread use in philosophy, esp. areas related to religion.

[Dis]

stop blaming everything on religion.

I've had it with you athiest.

Did you ever consider she might be insane? And religion did not cause her to kill her 3 sons?

that's all

[Urban Ranger]

If she is convinced that it's not God but Dissident who told her to kill her sons, would she do it? Doubtful. Therefore, religion must play a part in this.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


So, what you are saying is, you will not do what your God tells you to do, even if you are convinced that it is actually God who conveyed the message to you, if that action/mission runs against your morals? Extrapolating from that, you are also convinced that any "mainstream" (whatever that means) religious people will not do such a thing? Thus, anybody who does that does that cannot be, uh, "mainstream," regardless of what that person's beliefs are?

You really believe that mainstream Christianity, Judahism, and Islam allow for moral affirmation of killing your children if you believe God tells you to do so?

[Dis]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
If she is convinced that it's not God but Dissident who told her to kill her sons, would she do it? Doubtful. Therefore, religion must play a part in this.

I'm a pretty powerful person with great influence. I could get her to do it.

[Q Classic]

well, if she was crazy, she did us a favor by removing three potential carriers of her flawed personality.

[Dis]

I just don't get why people are so hard on religion.

I fail to see how religion caused this woman to kill her kids.

Most of my relatives are religious. When you insult religious people you insult all my relatives.

I don't understand why athiests won't let people be religious and worship whomever they please.

[Q Classic]

i wasn't making judgement on religion, i was merely pointing out that people who are crazy often have it also run in the family. we don't need that many crazy people; therefore, whether driven by religion or insanity, she did, in a dark, cynical way, do us all a favor.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Spiffor
The question in the second post is valid though. For you religious faithful, if you are convinced God orders you to do something you'd regard as going against your morality otherwise, would you do it?

Religion holds to an objective sense of morality, so if you believed God yet you had a morality contrary to God even after he revealed what he wanted, there is something wrong.

[MrFun]

well said, Shi

[Buck Birdseed]

So are you saying morality is in fact fathomable for mere man without the need for god?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by MrFun
You really believe that mainstream Christianity, Judahism, and Islam allow for moral affirmation of killing your children if you believe God tells you to do so?

Abraham did it, no? If that's not mainstream Judeo-Christianity, I don't know what is.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Religion holds to an objective sense of morality, so if you believed God yet you had a morality contrary to God even after he revealed what he wanted, there is something wrong.

Are you saying Christian morality is based on something other than God's will?