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  • #46
    Tuberski: Passive resistance only works against at least nominally democratic societies that have pretensions of being just. That seems to imply that it would be better used by the Palestinians rather than the Israelis.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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    • #47
      In previous posts in the thread, I already said that, I assumed it would be implied the second time.

      ACK!
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Tuberski


        Passive resistance by the Palestinians.

        ACK!

        See?

        ACK!
        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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        • #49
          Now I'm for peace, but passive resistance won't work on the part of the Israelis. It will work for the Palestinians better than terrorism.

          Israel needs to do something but I don't think that involves force. The status quo sucks pretty big time (and force would escalate that).
          "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
          "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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          • #50
            The use of child soldiers is an obvious way for the Palestinians to intensify the conflict. They're showing that they mean business, after Israel showed it meant business by assassinating the Hamas leader.

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            • #51
              Attempting to blow up canisters of poisonous gas that would have killed many Israelis didn't show they mean business.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #52
                I think both sides need to be locked in a rubber room with several kilos of weed, 400 boxes of condoms and a couple of bottles of baby oil.
                "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                • #53
                  Passive resistance only works when an oppressed majority is confronting an oppressive minority. Within the actual borders of Israel, the population is over 75% Jews. Applying passive resistance in the occupied territories alone would no doubt produce a "who cares" attitude in Israel, thus leading nowhere.

                  My solution: put UN forces on the ground to enforce the pre-1967 war borders. No compromises.
                  "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
                  "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
                  "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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                  • #54
                    Or we could go with Whaleboy's solution.
                    "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
                    "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
                    "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Stuie
                      Passive resistance only works when an oppressed majority is confronting an oppressive minority.
                      Yer forgetting the civil rights movement.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Kucinich


                        Yup! Rather than defend myself from attack, I'll just sit there. Then they'll stop attacking me, of course. I mean, it's ALL MY FAULT, isn't it?
                        You got that right, Skywalker....
                        Haven't been here for ages....

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                        • #57
                          I think we're well beyond the stage where passive resistance by either side would be effective. I very sincerely doubt anything short of the eradication of one side or physical separation would settle the issue.
                          "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                          "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                          "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Whaleboy
                            Anyone ever noticed the absolutely terrible reasoning used by the "let's kill 'em all" types here? Plus emotional answers.
                            Who said "let's kill 'em all"? I don't see ANYONE advocating genocide against the Palestinians...

                            Unless you're regarding those here who are pro-Palestine

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Tuberski
                              It's still the only way to win. If they don't stop attacking they become the clear-cut bad guy.
                              HOW?!

                              They bomb innocent civilians, strap bombs onto CHILDREN and use the children as living weapons, but if Israel attacks with conventional military force and tries NOT to kill innocent civilians, they lose the high moral grounds? WTF?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Whaleboy
                                Now I'm for peace, but passive resistance won't work on the part of the Israelis. It will work for the Palestinians better than terrorism.

                                Israel needs to do something but I don't think that involves force. The status quo sucks pretty big time (and force would escalate that).
                                How are you going to stop them WITHOUT force? Force can only be met with force - unless you think you can negotiate with a missile.

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