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  • Originally posted by MrFun
    I never said that Isreal is blameless.
    It was implied in your previous post.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • Hell, you would read that I'm straight in between the lines if you were creative enough, Chegitz.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • Holy crap, they killed Saruman!
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        • Re: Hamas Founder KILLED

          Originally posted by Giancarlo
          This is a victory for the war against terror:

          "GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Israeli helicopters fired missiles at Hamas leader Sheik Ahmed Yassin as he left a mosque near his house at daybreak Monday, residents said, and witnesses said he was killed. "

          http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...d=540&ncid=716
          Giancarlo you are than idiot like Israel PM and most of cabinet members. First murdering than old blind man in a wheelchair by fireing than missile from than gunship is no great act of bravery. The day that Israel will disappear is comeing closer every day. God sent me than vision of Israel being destory for disokney International Laws which they have the habit of doing.
          By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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          • Originally posted by Ned
            Interesting digression.

            However, not one word about the craveness of Britain and France for condemning this great event; and how spineless Bush has been for providing in effect "no comment."

            Is there anyone in the world who knows right from wrong and who stands boldly on the side of the right?

            The leaders of the world, other than Sharon, are really something.

            BTW, did Kerry's people say anything on this?
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            Britain and France have more mortal bravely than you or most supporter of Israel have. First it is than murder of than old blindman in a wheelchair by than inmortal nation of Israel.
            By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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            • Poor old blind man in wheelchair.
              urgh.NSFW

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              • Originally posted by lord of the mark


                The grand strategy, IIUC is to get out of Gaza, which will economize on military resources. It will also open up a new political dynamic in the territories, given that Mohammed Dahlan, who was in the Abu Mazen govt and defied arafat over control of PA security forces, is strong in Gaza.

                There are two big problems with this strategy
                1. Hamas is also strong on the ground in Gaza. Arafat may be so afraid of Dahlan he will ally with Hamas against Dahlan.
                2. As with Lebanon in 1999, an Israeli strategic withdrawl will be spun as a victory for terror.

                Killing Yassin certainly deals with 2, and in the apparent view of Israeli strategists deals with 1. By killing Yassin no one can claim that the withdrawl from Gaza is simply a retreat after defeat. And it weakens Hamas POLITICALLY on the ground in Gaza, during its death struggle with Dahlan. It also sends a not so subtle message to Arafat, should he decide to openly ally with Hamas. Weighing that, and Yassins real value as an inciter, versus some marginal impact on recruitment, it was decided this was a "go"

                A counter argument would have to come from a detailed analysis of Gaza politics, not the usual handwringing.
                In other word Israel is getting they ass knick by the freedom fighter.
                By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                • Originally posted by Azazel
                  Poor old blind man in wheelchair.
                  I believe he would have met the condion of being declare legality blind in all state in america and not giveing than driver id.
                  By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                  • I think he might have had other problems besides not being able to get a drivers license.

                    I happen to think the Israeli policy of extrajudicial killing (or assasination, or whatever you wish to call it) is counterproductive. But I've no sympathy for the old, blind, wheelchair-bound bastard.

                    -Arrian
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                    • How is this killing any different than if we kill OBL?
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                      • I seem to recall a certain "blind sheik" who masterminded the original WTC bombing.
                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                        • LotM - I agree with most of your posts on this thread. But if you look at what Ben-Gurion said about the half loaf, it went something like this.

                          "I don't like settling for half of Israel more than any of you. But we are being offered half of Israel now, and I recommend we accept, without renouncing our claim to historic Israel." I don't have my books with me, can't quote exactly...

                          The realpolitik is a conundrum.

                          Israel cannot maintain control of all of Gaza and the West Bank. Even with Jewish settelement, the Palestinian Arabs are an ever-increasing majority.

                          No Isreali government can survive abandoning the territories. There is the right wing hawk constituency, there is the religious extremist constituency, and of course, there is the economic reality of all the Jews who bought homes in the territory because they were cheap and within a half-hour commute of work.

                          Israel must abandon the territories, at least most of them. It cannot be a Jewish Democracy and keep them; and ultimately, Israel will choose to keep its Jewishness and its democratic traditions over its archeological boundaries. But the government that does so will commit political suicide. At least for the foreseeable future.
                          Last edited by The Mad Viking; March 23, 2004, 14:45.
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                          • I reckon Arafat'll meet a similar end in a year or two. Killing Yassin was a card Sharon was keeping in his back pocket. It's the same with Arafat.

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                            • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              How is this killing any different than if we kill OBL?
                              In terms of the principle of the thing, there isn't a difference.

                              In terms of reality on the ground, it is different. At the end of the day, we don't have to live side-by-side with OBL and his ilk, as Israel does with the Palestinians.

                              -Arrian

                              p.s. A better example would be the guys we actually did kill in Yemen with missle fire from a Predator.
                              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                              • Originally posted by Gatekeeper


                                Hmm. Last I heard, China was busy cracking down on Muslim militants in Xinjiang Province (I think that's the correct name ... anyway, it's one of the most western provinces in China). So long as that continues, I don't forsee any possibility of an Arab-China allliance. Unless, of course, the good Muslim folks in said province become, well, expendable for the greater good.

                                Gatekeeper
                                You are wrong China support the Arab totally and the new Calp will issue than ruleing which will say Alia doesnot want to rebel against China.
                                By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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