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  • Originally posted by Giancarlo


    TheLeftWingBull****Site doesn't count as news.
    Nice avatar. Quite apt really.
    Only feebs vote.

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    • Originally posted by Giancarlo


      That's incredibly hypothetical and not even .5% likely.
      Your arrogance is sometimes way too much.

      The election of 2000 was VERY close -- or have you already forgotten about that election?

      The election of 2004 may not be as hair-splitting close, but I am confident that this election will not be a clear winner until the very end.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • Originally posted by MrFun

        The election of 2004 may not be as hair-splitting close, but I am confident that this election will not be a clear winner until the very end.
        I'm just an optimistic one. Kerry is still gonna lose.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • Fez -- the magic eighth ball is a toy. It does not really work when "predicting" the future.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • Originally posted by MrFun
            Fez -- the magic eighth ball is a toy. It does not really work when "predicting" the future.
            No but my middle finger does.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • http://www.sptimes.com/2003/04/07/W...inforces_.shtml

              Hmmm. The plane found as described. People foreign to Iraq giving intel after having been trained there...

              Perhaps you would like to try again?
              It's an interesting article you found there, how long did it take to find it? I just did a google news search on "Salman Pak" and the vast majority of articles have been saying that the intel was faulty. Sure, there were a couple places where they assert that it is true (usually referencing either INC defectors or Shrub's pre-war pronouncements, rarely actually asserting that they found it - and when they do say it, it's generally in early April of last year). You must have realized that it's a bit fishy that no one else picked up the story (and in fact asserting the opposite), not even the government is asserting its validity. Well, there is a reason:

              "Almost immediately after September 11th, the I.N.C. began to publicize the
              stories of defectors who claimed that they had information connecting Iraq
              to the attacks. In an interview on October 14, 2001, conducted jointly by
              the Times and “Frontline,” the public-television program, Sabah Khodada, an
              Iraqi Army captain, said that the September 11th operation “was conducted by
              people who were trained by Saddam,” and that Iraq had a program to instruct
              terrorists in the art of hijacking. Another defector, who was identified
              only as a retired lieutenant general in the Iraqi intelligence service, said
              that in 2000 he witnessed Arab students being given lessons in hijacking on
              a Boeing 707 parked at an Iraqi training camp near the town of Salman Pak,
              south of Baghdad.

              In separate interviews with me, however, a former C.I.A. station chief and a
              former military intelligence analyst said that the camp near Salman Pak had
              been built not for terrorism training but for counter-terrorism training. In
              the mid-eighties, Islamic terrorists were routinely hijacking aircraft. In
              1986, an Iraqi airliner was seized by pro-Iranian extremists and crashed,
              after a hand grenade was triggered, killing at least sixty-five people. (At
              the time, Iran and Iraq were at war, and America favored Iraq.) Iraq then
              sought assistance from the West, and got what it wanted from Britain’s MI6.
              The C.I.A. offered similar training in counter-terrorism throughout the
              Middle East. “We were helping our allies everywhere we had a liaison,” the
              former station chief told me. Inspectors recalled seeing the body of an
              airplane—which appeared to be used for counter-terrorism training—when they
              visited a biological-weapons facility near Salman Pak in 1991, ten years
              before September 11th. It is, of course, possible for such a camp to be
              converted from one purpose to another. The former C.I.A. official noted,
              however, that terrorists would not practice on airplanes in the open.
              “That’s Hollywood rinky-dink stuff,” the former agent said. “They train in
              basements. You don’t need a real airplane to practice hijacking. The 9/11
              terrorists went to gyms. But to take one back you have to practice on the
              real thing.”

              Salman Pak was overrun by American troops on April 6th. Apparently, neither
              the camp nor the former biological facility has yielded evidence to
              substantiate the claims made before the war.


              As I said, thank you, come again.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • If this corrupt, lying, incompetent bunch get re-elected, then it would show that democracy doesn't work.


                So they aren't misrepesenting you. You believe in democracy only if your guys win.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • Originally posted by Giancarlo
                  No but my middle finger does.
                  It smells of your arse anyway. Stop having fun with yourself.
                  In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                  • Originally posted by Giancarlo


                    No but my middle finger does.
                    Are you trying to make some kind of snappy comeback or something?
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • Funning vs. Fezzing, which technique is more effective?
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • Originally posted by Giancarlo


                        I'm just an optimistic one. Kerry is still gonna lose.
                        Just like when the Socialists lost in Spain?
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • Originally posted by Kidicious


                          Just like when the Socialists lost in Spain?
                          You mean terrorists will propel Kerry to office with a pre-election day attack?
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • I didn't know that you thought that way about Shrub.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • Originally posted by Kidicious


                              Just like when the Socialists lost in Spain?
                              If the terrorists strike again, Kerry can kiss his ass goodbye.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                                If this corrupt, lying, incompetent bunch get re-elected, then it would show that democracy doesn't work.


                                So they aren't misrepesenting you. You believe in democracy only if your guys win.
                                Not really. If Clinton had behaved this way, I would have felt much the same.
                                Only feebs vote.

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