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Originally posted by Agathon
Like Vietnam.
Like Vietnam.
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I bet the vietnamese had wished we won vietnam. -
Goddamn, people are so blinded by their hatred of the US, they're fully willing to sacrifice the fait of the iraqi people to see the US fail. It's all quite sad really. Do you know what will happen If the US will fail in Iraq? complete and utter chaos. Unimaginable suffering. What would happen if the US would succeed? only good stuff, in comparison to what exists there today.
But I guess when you're foaming at the mouth, and your only consideration is the failure of the US, none of this matters.Comment
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You must be joking. They still gloat about handing you your asses.Originally posted by yavoon
I bet the vietnamese had wished we won vietnam.Only feebs vote.Comment
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well look at the two cold war asian wars we fought.Originally posted by Agathon
You must be joking. They still gloat about handing you your asses.
korea and vietnam.
places we didnt control at end, north korea and vietnam. places we did, south korea.
I didn't say they lacked national pride. but perhaps some pragmatism would have shown more wisdom on their part.Comment
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why are we happy about poland possibly pulling out early?
that means more americans will have to die instead.B♭3Comment
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which is a bad thing.
it wasn't a riddle.
simply put, i really wish bush had worked a bit more on diplomacy, because we can't afford to have more people starting to waver in their support.B♭3Comment
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I think you answered you own question wrt some of the people in this thread.Originally posted by Q Cubed
why are we happy about poland possibly pulling out early?
that means more americans will have to die instead.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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What Azazel said."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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OK - the first started well and then you snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, ending up with half the country instead of all of it.Originally posted by yavoon
well look at the two cold war asian wars we fought..
The second was a royal ass whipping.Only feebs vote.Comment
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No. This just shows the failure of Bush and makes it more likely his gonna have to involve the UN. Which, unfortunately, doesn't mean that he'll do it.Originally posted by Azazel
Goddamn, people are so blinded by their hatred of the US, they're fully willing to sacrifice the fait of the iraqi peopleChristianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Actually the one who condemnds Iraqis to misery is Bush. After he bombed them and plunged their country to anarchy even after being explicitely told not to by the international community, he now refuses to let the UN handle it condemning the people to more suffering.
Are there no limits to greed?
UN getting in will have but one difference: it will make it more difficult for the US to dictate contracts and oil exploration clauses.
For what other reason does Bush insists on not letting the UN in?Comment
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has nothing whatsoever to do w/ my point. I was speaking from the vietnamese perspective. not some OMG THE USA ROCKS. obviously tho this thread has been set aside for USA bashing, which seems to even apply to tangents.Originally posted by Agathon
OK - the first started well and then you snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, ending up with half the country instead of all of it.
The second was a royal ass whipping.Comment
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The Vietnamese seem to be perfectly happy having their own country back.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Agathon:
Azazel: I don't think any sensible people want to see Iraq fail to show the US wrong. I think people that believed the war to be a fallacy are being increasingly vindicated. What was the case for war? Has that shown to be wrong? Yes! The case for war was BS. The ad hoc'd "well it was better for them anyway" cuts no ice, even from a utilitarian viewpoint since any benefits are unlikely to last long and more **** has been kicked up in the interim.Goddamn, people are so blinded by their hatred of the US, they're fully willing to sacrifice the fait of the iraqi people to see the US fail. It's all quite sad really. Do you know what will happen If the US will fail in Iraq? complete and utter chaos. Unimaginable suffering. What would happen if the US would succeed? only good stuff, in comparison to what exists there today.
We laugh at the US in retrospect, I honestly hope that the Iraqi's have a decent future, but I'm not holding my breath."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
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