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  • #91
    Originally posted by Tripledoc
    On topic:

    What is wrong with trying a 'soft' approach? So far the 'hard' approach hasn't worked out very well.

    In any case negotiating with terrorists can always buy some time, if nothing else.

    Actually, I have a question. More like a thought experiment really. Why is it always presented in such a way, that making a deal with al- quada is impossible? The way I see it continuing in the same mode will only cost more lives.

    Say for instance. Ok we will withdraw completely from the Mid east. Give the Palestinians their homeland. And pay the proper price for oil. This would include a new international monetary and financial order.

    These 3 things, if they were implemented will have immensely little negative impact on the daily lives of the citizens of the western world. In fact in the long run it would make sense.

    I know some might complain that it is unwise to make deals with terrorists. But the argument that giving in to terrorists will only mean more terrorists is not a good one, because combating terrorists also creates more terrorists. Perhaps quite a few more.
    Well said!!
    What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
    What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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    • #92
      You're insane, you can't made deals with wahhabist maniacs.

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      • #93
        "Doctor current meds not working."

        "Nurse, Increase Dosage"

        Throw dollars at it, Throw bodies at it! That's Insane!

        If it's not working then a new solution needs to be explored!
        What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
        What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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        • #94
          I'm not saying that the current policy of the 'war on terror' is sane. But that doesn't mean that you can expect to make deals with Al-Quadia. That's really 'appeasement' as it worst (and I do really hate the Bush-babies around here that uses that word as some sort of mantra). They're a small group of total wackos, they'll break the deal as soon as they see fit. A 'soft' policy might very well work against quite a lot of others in the middle east and muslim world, but not against al-quaida itself.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Kropotkin
            I'm not saying that the current policy of the 'war on terror' is sane. But that doesn't mean that you can expect to make deals with Al-Quadia. That's really 'appeasement' as it worst (and I do really hate the Bush-babies around here that uses that word as some sort of mantra). They're a small group of total wackos, they'll break the deal as soon as they see fit. A 'soft' policy might very well work against quite a lot of others in the middle east and muslim world, but not against al-quaida itself.
            We never try to make than deal with AQ so you cannot say it will not work. I never brought into that idiot idear that you cannot make deal with terrorist.
            By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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            • #96
              Our idear of the government type of the ancient world is based on the modern conspect of government we have. Some of ancient government of the ancient world where not purely of one type, The King of Egypt wasnot than pure mon type of government there whele element of socialism in it as well as theocrat type of government.
              By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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              • #97
                fez doesnt believe in decentralized government. he wants all drug users to hang. that requires a strong central govt.
                "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                • #98
                  Being soft on terrorism is not an option. Afterall Clinton was that way for so many years.

                  Lawrence, decentralized means a smaller central government that enforces the laws. If you break the laws, goodbye.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #99
                    is it just me or has no one noticed how being "weak" is sooo negative here. Like if being the tough guy all the time did any good.

                    Just look at how the tough Israelis are being to Palestinians and vice-versa. Wow I mean this has really solved the conflict now, nearly.

                    Lets hope is china gets very tough on Taiwan!

                    Stick your toughness up your butt!!!

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                    • #100
                      BTW Spain has just decided to double its contingent in Afghanistan. How is this being soft on terrorism?

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                      • #101
                        CharlesBHoff = Tripledoc's drunk DL. It's freakin' obvious. I mean, just look at the timing, he always posts after Tripledoc and almost always supports him. Why hasn't a mod still run an IP check?

                        Being soft on terrorism is not an option. Afterall Clinton was that way for so many years.
                        When Clinton tried to bomb Taleban back to the Stone age, he got bad press about it... he was supposedly trying to just cover the fact that he had sex with his assistant. After that, he stopped the bombing raids in Afganistan due to republican pressure... am I correct?

                        Bush Jr. supported Taliban during his early reign, when he tried to portray himself as a leader who had a 'hard line' on drugs... am I correct?

                        Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were both helped to become the leaders of their country and mainly supported and armed in their unsure early years in power by a republican president, Ronald Reagan... am I correct?

                        And still, it seems that most US citizens are imagining that the republican party is the one which is more actively fighting against the terrorists.

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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by VJ
                          CharlesBHoff = Tripledoc's drunk DL. It's freakin' obvious. I mean, just look at the timing, he always posts after Tripledoc and almost always supports him. Why hasn't a mod still run an IP check?


                          When Clinton tried to bomb Taleban back to the Stone age, he got bad press about it... he was supposedly trying to just cover the fact that he had sex with his assistant. After that, he stopped the bombing raids in Afganistan due to republican pressure... am I correct?

                          Bush Jr. supported Taliban during his early reign, when he tried to portray himself as a leader who had a 'hard line' on drugs... am I correct?

                          Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were both helped to become the leaders of their country and mainly supported and armed in their unsure early years in power by a republican president, Ronald Reagan... am I correct?

                          And still, it seems that most US citizens are imagining that the republican party is the one which is more actively fighting against the terrorists.
                          It is easyer to destory orginate crime than fighting terrorism. We strill have not won the war on drug yet and most like never win the war on drug. On Mafric arrest than destory one family afew more take they place. Terrorism is strong support in the Islam world look at Pakistan they are trying to combat terrorist inside Pakistan than the public is protecting against it and MMA is really to pull out of the government they have in Parliament.
                          By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by VJ
                            Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were both helped to become the leaders of their country and mainly supported and armed in their unsure early years in power by a republican president, Ronald Reagan... am I correct?
                            No, you aren't. OBL wasn't a leader of a country and Hussein was already in power by Reagan's term.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #104
                              Afterall Clinton was that way for so many years.
                              Not to mention that Bush's first terror-related meeting was on September 6.

                              (2001!)
                              meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                              • #105
                                No, you aren't. OBL wasn't a leader of a country and Hussein was already in power by Reagan's term.
                                No, but VJ is close. America gave ridiculous amounts of aid to all kinds of whackos in the Middle East, especially in the 1980's. Including Sodamn Insane and Osama bin Hidin.
                                meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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