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My son, you are wrong.
Actually Fez, stalinisms core roots are in stalinist misery and gulags 
Socialism's core roots are in stalinist misery and gulags
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Maybe you should look at a mirror.Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
My son, you are wrong.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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xpost?
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Yes, my son.Comment
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Actually you made a few mistakes... Socialism's core roots are in stalinist misery and gulags, whereas capitalisms core roots are the same as prosperity.
You have got to be kidding me, right?
Capitalism makes its wealth by stratification of society. Where the rich become richer by making money off of those with less....in essence, exploitation.Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
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No, capitalism means a large middle class, prosperity whereas socialism means Somalia like conditions of anarchy.Originally posted by Frankychan
You have got to be kidding me, right?
Capitalism makes its wealth by stratification of society. Where the rich become richer by making money off of those with less....in essence, exploitation.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Actually Fez, anarchy tends to create Somalia like conditions of anarchy
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Alright, I'm watching it now
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Fezziepoo honey while I'm gone, say something more that's sigworthy please?
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No, socialism did that.Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Actually Fez, anarchy tends to create Somalia like conditions of anarchy
Okay.. take Ethoipia.. the regime was communist. The country starved. That's socialism.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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@ Fez
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The belief that most of society is middle class is a myth.
A large percentage of the population is actually working class to borderline poor.
Somalia isn't relevant because that's feudalism gone awry.
You want Socialism? Then you want Sweden as an example.Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
*****Citizen of the Hive****
"...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -DisComment
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Anarchy had nothing to do with it?Originally posted by Giancarlo
No, socialism did that.
Okay.. take Ethoipia.. the regime was communist. The country starved. That's socialism. [/QUOTE]
No. Actually, it was stalinist
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The belief that most of society is middle class is a myth.
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We are talking about the US where most of the society is middle class, not Somalia where everybody is poor.Originally posted by Frankychan
The belief that most of society is middle class is a myth.
A large percentage of the population is actually working class to borderline poor.
No... examples of socialism is either Somalia or Ethoipia where millions have starved.You want Socialism? Then you want Sweden as an example.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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There is no difference. Leftist, democrat, socialist. They are all Stalinists to meOriginally posted by Comrade Tassadar
No. Actually, it was stalinist
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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