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  • #16
    Originally posted by St Leo
    Bush lies.
    Bushwatch.com? I'd find more credibility at TheOnion.com.

    Kerry flip-flops all the time. At least Bush doesn't. Lets face it, both are anti-gay marriage. That's a fact. I am voting on honesty and national security, and in my opinion Bush far wins that one.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Giancarlo
      Kerry flip-flops all the time. At least Bush doesn't. Lets face it, both are anti-gay marriage. That's a fact. I am voting on honesty and national security, and in my opinion Bush far wins that one.


      Oh, fine, whatever. I think America isn't in any danger from anyone, but what do I know?

      Vote Green or Nader!
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      • #18
        Originally posted by St Leo
        Oh, fine, whatever. I think America isn't in any danger from anyone, but what do I know?
        Yeah... lets just sit with our thumbs up our butts, and letting Al Qaeda into the country to blow more things up... smart one.

        Vote Green or Nader!
        Nader's independent correct me if I am wrong. And a moron too. And besides a vote for Nader, is a vote for Bush. Yeah vote Nader!
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Giancarlo
          Yeah... lets just sit with our thumbs up our butts, and letting Al Qaeda into the country to blow more things up.
          In an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida, for example?
          justice is might

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          • #20
            Originally posted by PLATO


            Wheather or not you like Bush's message, it has been pretty consistent.
            Oh, I remember the days when he was running for President... giving talks about American shouldn't get itself involved in "nation-building activities"...

            And you know what, he did keep to his word. His administration has done nothing but destroy nations since it came to power.
            "I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?" -Frank Zappa
            "A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice."- Thomas Paine
            "I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours." -Bob Dylan

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            • #21
              Originally posted by cinch


              Oh, I remember the days when he was running for President... giving talks about American shouldn't get itself involved in "nation-building activities"...
              Three or four years ago? Kerry has consistently flip flopped every two weeks.

              And no, it only liberated nations.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Giancarlo

                Bushwatch.com? I'd find more credibility at TheOnion.com. .
                Yes, you would, since everyone knows about that time you got fooled into taking an Onion article seriously.
                Only feebs vote.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Agathon


                  Yes, you would, since everyone knows about that time you got fooled into taking an Onion article seriously.
                  I was just joking around when I said I took it seriously, numb nuts.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #24
                    I believe you.
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ned
                      Plato, Bush is a rareity among politicians, a man of his word.


                      Ned, you bust my **** up.
                      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ned
                        Plato, Bush is a rareity among politicians, a man of his word.
                        I wouldn´t be too surprised, if that goes into anyone's sig.
                        justice is might

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                        • #27
                          Dude, I voted Bush in 2000, but honest? Come on!
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Giancarlo
                            I am voting on honesty and national security, and in my opinion Bush far wins that one.
                            Honesty?

                            Harken. Guard duty. CBN in Iraq. 'nuff said.
                            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              Dude, I voted Bush in 2000, but honest? Come on!
                              Imran, sure he is. He said he would cut taxes. He did. He said he would declare war on those responsible for 9/11. He did. He said he would disarm Saddam. He did.

                              While it is true that he was against nation building, he did not invade Afghanistan and Iraq for this purpose. Once their, he had no choice.

                              As to WMD, everyone knows that we, and for that matter, everyone else (including the French) were relying on less that reliable intelligence. We and the Brits are now investigating why. But no one seriously contends that Bush lied about WMD because that assumes he knew the intelligence was unreliable.

                              I can think of no major policy where Bush said he would do one thing and then did another.
                              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                              • #30
                                Ned, I think you are mistaking "predictable" for "honest"

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