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  • #46
    Originally posted by mrmitchell

    Bush = even larger government
    Kerry = even larger government

    Bush = increase spending, lower taxes, and the tooth fairy will come in and give us the difference
    Kerry = increase home spending where we need it instead of blowing $87B on foreign hellholes
    The one thing Kerry guarantees is that he will raise taxes. He does not promise to reduce spending.
    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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    • #47
      i love the charge "he's anti-american" used by people who are on the right in regards to people who might disagree with them.
      B♭3

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ned
        Not only that. He is a purebred anti-American.
        Haven't we been through this before and found no evidence for this smear?
        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
        (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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        • #49
          Originally posted by CharlesBHoff


          The flip=flops issue is than GOP smear tactic. First people have than right to change their mind on issues. It people didnot change they mind there would be no prossive at all. New facts can lead than legimate polcymaker to change his mind.
          The NYTimes is a right wing defamation rag? Really??

          Even if people have a right to change their minds, we expect a leader to choose a proper course and fight, and fight hard for his ideas.

          One does not expect a leader to change his views every two weeks, or to tell every audience what they want to hear only to lie to the next audience that what he just said never happened.

          The audacity of Kerry's lies is amazing. He must think everyone is stupid -- or a liberal fellow-traveller who will "ignore" the fact that he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth.
          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Q Cubed
            i love the charge "he's anti-american" used by people who are on the right in regards to people who might disagree with them.
            I charge Kerry with being anti-American because of what he did and said in 1970-71.
            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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            • #51
              Wow, Imran is voting for Kerry?!?!

              I never would have seen that coming. It's great to see that more and more people are slowing waking up. I've always loved Imran, but I used to think of him as really one of more of our more biased right-wing types. It fills me with hope that, despite past ideological biases, perhaps more people can learn to view things as objectively as he has.
              http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                Haven't we been through this before and found no evidence for this smear?
                Urban Ranger, you are not an American who was there during the Vietnam War. You have no idea just how much I hate Kerry and how much many Americans of my era hate him.
                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by monkspider
                  Wow, Imran is voting for Kerry?!?!

                  I never would have seen that coming. It's great to see that more and more people are slowing waking up. I've always loved Imran, but I used to think of him as really one of more of our more biased right-wing types. It fills me with hope that, despite past ideological biases, perhaps more people can learn to view things as objectively as he has.
                  Wake up and don't vote for the great anti-american. Rather Imran has fallen into a trap of the weak evil leftist forces in this country, that are attempting a coup d'etat against the government. These evil leftist forces are weak in nature and will collapse on their own sense of stupidity and impotence.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #54


                    Ned,

                    You're too blinded by hatred to see past the tip of your nose. You are afraid to face your responsibilty to other people, so you have created your own universe to hide in and you lash out at anyone who values love and brotherhood. Just know that your universe is a lonely place, and the sooner you can join the rest of us, the better. You just need to learn to value love more than hatred, and you will have great potential in this life.
                    http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Giancarlo


                      Wake up and don't vote for the great anti-american. Rather Imran has fallen into a trap of the weak evil leftist forces in this country, that are attempting a coup d'etat against the government. These evil leftist forces are weak in nature and will collapse on their own sense of stupidity and impotence.

                      Nice to see that some things never change -- like this kind of crap that you have always managed to post in threads.
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • #56
                        Ned, you were in Vietnam?
                        justice is might

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by monkspider


                          Ned,

                          You're too blinded by hatred to see past the tip of your nose. You are afraid to face your responsibilty to other people, so you have created your own universe to hide in and you lash out at anyone who values love and brotherhood. Just know that your universe is a lonely place, and the sooner you can join the rest of us, the better. You just need to learn to value love more than hatred, and you will have great potential in this life.
                          Illogical communism values love and brotherhood? That's laughable at best. Ned is right about one thing... you commies are doomed to failure. You don't want to bring out the potential of people, you want to throw them in great chasms of failure and misery. You value nothing but horror and unjust income redistribution.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #58
                            Yay! Clinton's back!
                            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                            "Capitalism ho!"

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                            • #59
                              While I don't doubt that some politicians have a higher moral character than others, some of you guys are in need of a paradigm shift in your conception of politics. First of all, it should be about the issues much more than the candidates. Secondly, we need to accept that anybody who wants to hold a political office of great importance would have to have stabbed somebody in the back at some point or said one thing and done something else at another time. It's not pretty but it's inevitable because that's the way politics goes and the other side is doing it too.

                              I think it's tiring how people seemingly want to turn themselves into one-sided characters in every and all political debates around here. I can only imagine Ned's outrage if Bush had been a candidate for the Democrats. So Ned, do you even have a single viewpoint on politics that favours Democrats over Republicans? If yes, why we hear about that for a change? Vice versa, the same could be said for Sava and quite a couple others.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by monkspider
                                Wow, Imran is voting for Kerry?!?!

                                I never would have seen that coming. It's great to see that more and more people are slowing waking up. I've always loved Imran, but I used to think of him as really one of more of our more biased right-wing types. It fills me with hope that, despite past ideological biases, perhaps more people can learn to view things as objectively as he has.
                                Although I'm not certain how much Imran's support is based on the man himself and how much it's based on his political stances, it gave me some hope to see a 'Poly poster make a choice like that.

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