Best debater award

[Theben]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Btw, can we not have debates in the best debater thread... it's like fighting in the war room.. can't have it .

Which of course never happens... with multiple people engaged in planning and all...

MtG
che
Diodorus Sicilius

[Ned]

I second or third or whatever the notion that there are many many good debaters here on Apolyton. I would judge a good debater as one who actually listens to the arguments of the other and provides a cogent rejoinder or a concession where appropriate. People who never concede a point or that simply leave a thread if they are defeated in an argument lose my respect. Che would have made the top of my list but for the fact that he never, ever agrees with his opponent on even the smallest point. Ditto, Imran.

I apologize if I omit somebody in the following list that I really respect, but my list must include

Spiffor
Whaleboy
Sikander


Honorable mention:

Michael the Great
Molly
Ming
Siro
Ben

[David Floyd]

Has Ming or MtG ever conceded a point from the other side?

[Kuciwalker]

They don't have to, for multiple reasons

[Imran Siddiqui]

Theben, there should be a rule against voting for your brother .

[St Leo]

Boris Godunov
GePap
Chegitz Guevara

[Theben]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Theben, there should be a rule against voting for your brother .

Why? Because this award actually has some meaning?

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I don't know if I'd even put myself in my top 5 or even 10.

For some reason you reminded me of Sir Humphrey Appleby and false modesty.

[Imran Siddiqui]

False modesty is the best kind!

Btw, who's Appleby?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
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I would say just the opposite.

Asher is an expert in the technical area.

I don't dispute that. It's just that he has a problem with relating it to the real world. His "evidence" doesn't come close to supporting the conclusions he draws from it. The itunes thread is a(nother) blatant example. I challenge anyone to support his ridiculous viewpoint - it's at odds with the facts.

In summary it's very easy to beat up on him effectively without having any specialist technical knowledge. Drake is also quite good at this, when he can be bothered.

[Dauphin]

Appleby was the machiavellian Permanent Secretary in a comedy series from the early 80s called "Yes, (Prime) Minister". He was played by Nigel Hawthorne.

Great series if you ever get a chance to see it.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
I don't dispute that. It's just that he has a problem with relating it to the real world. His "evidence" doesn't come close to supporting the conclusions he draws from it. The itunes thread is a(nother) blatant example. I challenge anyone to support his ridiculous viewpoint - it's at odds with the facts.

In summary it's very easy to beat up on him effectively without having any specialist technical knowledge. Drake is also quite good at this, when he can be bothered.

Dude, you were completely and totally owned. Get over it.

Everyone sees it but you and your cronies.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I challenge anyone to support his ridiculous viewpoint

I thought I made that clear in the thread?

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Agathon


I don't dispute that. It's just that he has a problem with relating it to the real world.

I'd say just the opposite.

He has an understanding of what the common user wants and needs more than anybody around here. Everyone else has this, "I use platform so and so, so my method must be the best and everyone else sucks," type of mentality.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Appleby was the machiavellian Permanent Secretary in a comedy series from the early 80s called "Yes, (Prime) Minister". He was played by Nigel Hawthorne.

Great series if you ever get a chance to see it.

Thanks .

Heard of the show, never saw it though. Hopefully BBC America plays some repeats of it one day .