The Passion rotten so far

[Alexander's Horse]

I'm sure this movie is going to be a real downer - so I'm not going to see it.

A better film would dramatise events around the Passion rather than try to be biblically authentic. There's a lot of interesting material to work with for a fictionalised account.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
Violence in movies doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't go to see a movie thats only attraction was violence... if you take the violence out, would there still be a compelling story? I think The Passion of the Christ, from the look of things would be a shell without that.

If there was no story, would there still be violence? If so, I'm for it.

[MrBaggins]

Yep.. I think this is the movie for you.

[Barinthus]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
There seems to be some hypocracy here: Christian groups, for years and years have been criticizing violence in movies... but they're just gushing over this one.

*shrug*

The Bible is actually the most violent book in the history of literature. There's wars, fights, rapes, incest, murders, massacres, and so much more.

[Alexander's Horse]

I wonder if he didn't do much on the resurrection because the gospels don't agree.

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by DataAeolus


*shrug*

The Bible is actually the most violent book in the history of literature. There's wars, fights, rapes, incest, murders, massacres, and so much more.

I think you'd be surprised. I read much more violent and salacious fiction than the bible, every day.

[bipolarbear]

quote:

Ya, if you want to read some really freakey yet funny and isck violent stuff, check out the adventures of Meng and Ecker. It was banned in Britain!

[Capt Dizle]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
I agree with what you're saying. I think this film is going to do a lot of business... $150M (20-35 opening 3 day plus a 6 multiplier) domestically... and maybe as much as double that theoretically.

It, essentially, seems to me, a film about violence, that also has Christian characters in it, and is a bible story, rather than the other way around...

There seems to be some hypocracy here: Christian groups, for years and years have been criticizing violence in movies... but they're just gushing over this one.

I, for one, don't get it.

Violence in movies doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't go to see a movie thats only attraction was violence... if you take the violence out, would there still be a compelling story? I think The Passion of the Christ, from the look of things would be a shell without that.

You are saying this about a movie you haven't seen?

[Imran Siddiqui]

He doesn't hav e to see it to know there is a great amount of violence... after all it is R rated for a reason. And every critic has talked about the violence in the movie.

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
You are saying this about a movie you haven't seen?

I've read 37 or so reviews about it... and seen about 8-10 minutes worth of it in the various entertainment shows its been on.

plus...

what Imran said

P.S. Thanks Imran

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think we movies that have this much PR, people don't even have to see the movie to know what it is about.

Hell, I saw the best parts of 'Titanic' on entertainment shows (and no, I'm not talking about Kate Winslet's breasts ).

[Drake Tungsten]

There seems to be some hypocracy here: Christian groups, for years and years have been criticizing violence in movies... but they're just gushing over this one.

Indeed. That is amusing, isn't it?

Are you guys really this dense? Christian groups haven't been decrying violence of all kinds in the media; they've been decrying the glorified and consequence-free potrayals of violence that permeate modern actions movies and video games. There's a huge difference between that type of violence and the type of violence portrayed in "The Passion."

[Bereta_Eder]

Well someone talked bout that on TV right now. He said:

Jews crusified Christ.
Romans executed the decision of the Judaic High Council.
This is the historical truth as passed to us by the Evangelions.


That settles it then.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Christian groups haven't been decrying violence of all kinds in the media; they've been decrying the glorified and consequence-free potrayals of violence that permeate modern actions movies and video games.

Not entirely correct. I remember Christians decrying the violence in Braveheart (which was really brutal, I agree). Not exactly a consequence-free portrayl now was it? Mel has never, to my knowledge, been against the violence in the media, so he gets a pass.

For example:

http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/pre2000/i-brave.html

Though based on historical facts, Braveheart goes a little too far in demonstrating the violent nature of the men involved in the Scottish Highland/English battles of the middle ages.

The historic significance of this movie is not lost, however, in all the gore and bloodshed. But, as with all too many releases of late, Hollywood feels the need to show us, in detail, the extreme suffering and dismemberment of men in battle.

Most Christians (and many non-Christians) will see this epic film as distasteful because of the severe violence depicted, ...a shame considering that the history it is based on is fascinating.

I wonder how their review on Passion will read. Since the same critiques can be leveled against it . I know this isn't representative of ALL Christians, but neither was the original quote.

[Drake Tungsten]

Though based on historical facts, Braveheart goes a little too far in demonstrating the violent nature of the men involved in the Scottish Highland/English battles of the middle ages.

The historic significance of this movie is not lost, however, in all the gore and bloodshed. But, as with all too many releases of late, Hollywood feels the need to show us, in detail, the extreme suffering and dismemberment of men in battle.

Most Christians (and many non-Christians) will see this epic film as distasteful because of the severe violence depicted, ...a shame considering that the history it is based on is fascinating.

This is a very different argument than the usual conservative Christian complaints about the media's glorification of violence. All they mention is that was distasteful, not that it was desensitizing or had a corrupting influence on the minds of youth. Different potrayals of violence elict different responses; seems like common sense, not hypocrisy.