$ Apple is Now Debt Free $

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher
Apple and MS were once of comparable size.

If Apple was the smarter company, things would be reversed.

Apple shrunk and MS grew AFTER Steve Jobs left Apple.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
How do you think small companies get big, btw?

Michael Dell started his company in his college dormroom. Why did his company get so big? Because it had good management. That is the real key to success in business.

I agree, and this is why Apple has a small company.

Thanks for your help.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

How do you think small companies get big, btw?

Michael Dell started his company in his college dormroom. Why did his company get so big? Because it had good management. That is the real key to success in business.

[Asher]

Apple and MS were once of comparable size.

If Apple was the smarter company, things would be reversed.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher

The point was, he said Apple was smarter than its competitors...MS being a competitor, and having way way way more money than Apple will ever have.

So my point was this in no way shows Apple is smarter than its competitors, just slower.

If Jobs' main accomplishment was to get rid of $1B in debt over 7 years, how laughable is that when MS makes many times that every three months? How does that make them smarter than MS, if they had debt in the first place? If they're smarter than their competitors, how come their marketshare just drops?

Apple is a much smaller company. Smaller companies have a much harder time bringing in as much profits as their larger competitors unless they can come up with some "killer" products. Apple already has some "killer" products in it's inventory (PowerMac G5, XServe G5, iPod, iTunes). More products like these will be introduced this year. For example, there already rumors that a newly redesigned iMac G5 is on the way.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
I never admitted anything. Steve Jobs is just fixing all the mistakes the company made before he took over the company in 1997. Since Jobs has come to the company Apple has very much improved, and this just a big step in Apple's progress.

Since Jobs came to the company, Apple's marketshare has fallen.

Discuss.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher

So you admit Apple can't run a cost-effective business, hence the huge prices? They sure as hell don't use very high quality components or have high quality control...

I never admitted anything. Steve Jobs is just fixing all the mistakes the company made before he took over the company in 1997. Since Jobs has come to the company Apple has very much improved, and this just a big step in Apple's progress.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
And your point.

The point was, he said Apple was smarter than its competitors...MS being a competitor, and having way way way more money than Apple will ever have.

So my point was this in no way shows Apple is smarter than its competitors, just slower.

If Jobs' main accomplishment was to get rid of $1B in debt over 7 years, how laughable is that when MS makes many times that every three months? How does that make them smarter than MS, if they had debt in the first place? If they're smarter than their competitors, how come their marketshare just drops?

[Asher]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
And btw, if Apple went cold turkey right now and lowered prices down to what consumers demand they would lose money and would have no point in doing business. They will get there, but it will take some more time. You do business to make money, not lose money fool.

So you admit Apple can't run a cost-effective business, hence the huge prices? They sure as hell don't use very high quality components or have high quality control...

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher

How much debt does MS have?

And your point.

If you read the article CAREFULLY you would notice that Apple had a $1 billion debt back in 1997. That was around the time Steve Jobs joined the company. In seven years Steve has gotten Apple out of a $1 billion debt. Apple IS smarter than it's competitors.

[Fake Boris]

I'm wondering why people are still buying Apple.

With a good Linux install, there's no reason to go Apple. Unless you're using Final Cut Pro.

Nevertheless, I feel huge sympathy for their cause.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher
Yes! Hooray for higher profits for Apple.

I hope they increase the price on the Macs and iPods a bit more still.

I don't see where you're coming from.

Prices have been coming way down on Macs in the past year or so. 8 months ago the high-end PowerMac dropped $1700 for example.

As for the iPods, they are well worth it. They give the consumers exactly what they need without a clumsy interface and a huge "rock" in your pocket or on your clip, which makes life that much LESS miserable. Da' he** with the extras!

And btw, if Apple went cold turkey right now and lowered prices down to what consumers demand they would lose money and would have no point in doing business. They will get there, but it will take some more time. You do business to make money, not lose money fool.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Asher

How much debt does MS have?

Speaking of which, I wonder how much this will increase the price of the Apple shares Bill Gate's owns?

[Asher]

Originally posted by monkspider


Apple once again shows why it is smarter than it's competitors.

How much debt does MS have?

[monkspider]

Apple once again shows why it is smarter than it's competitors.