$ Apple is Now Debt Free $

[Asher]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Yes they are. If you choose not to accept them, go right ahead. I'm not the one who'll look like a fool.

Where's Apple's equivalent to research.microsoft.com?
How many patents were they issued in 2003?
How come they still don't ship two-button mice, at the least?

Innovative my ass.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
Apple was the first to sell downloaded music to consumers through the Internet without subscription fees, so that makes the the first company to start a sensible music download service.

Link, please.

Kidding. Okay, I'll give you that.

How about MS' Media Center PCs? How about bundling a HD and ethernet with a game console? How about adding tiltwheels to the mouse for horiztonal scrolling? How about the SmartPhone OSes? How about tablet PC OSes?

[Drake Tungsten]

'Dem ain't the facts.

Yes they are. If you choose not to accept them, go right ahead. I'm not the one who'll look like a fool.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher

Uh. Duh?

Whatever.

[MattH]

Oh god, here we go again. And I was about to remove the ignores from everybody .

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher

I have no idea how people think Apple is so innovative. MS has way more patents, MS actually innovates me.

Name something Apple "innovated" with in recent years.

Apple was the first to sell downloaded music to consumers through the Internet without subscription fees, so that makes the the first company to start a sensible music download service.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The facts are really quite simple. Apple is the more innovative company and makes better products, but Microsoft rules the world because they have better business sense, selling second-rate products for lower prices.

'Dem ain't the facts. Microsoft is the more innovative company which, IMO, makes better products. Apple makes 'prettier' products - more style than substance, but if that makes you happy, go for it.

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Don't you guys ever get sick of arguing about this ****?

I don't even see what you're arguing about. The facts are really quite simple. Apple is the more innovative company and makes better products, but Microsoft rules the world because they have better business sense, selling second-rate products for lower prices. Not really that complicated...

Cool it dude. I hardly ever post here, so, you get the idea.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Don't you guys ever get sick of arguing about this ****?

I don't even see what you're arguing about. The facts are really quite simple. Apple is the more innovative company and makes better products, but Microsoft rules the world because they have better business sense, selling second-rate products for lower prices. Not really that complicated...

I have no idea how people think Apple is so innovative. MS has way more patents, MS actually innovates me.

Name something Apple "innovated" with in recent years.

Apple's only innovative in their marketing, and how they manage to sell second-rate products for insanely high prices.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
Link, please.

Uh. Duh?

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher

Even when Jobs was with Apple, MS grew far faster.

Link, please.

[Drake Tungsten]

Don't you guys ever get sick of arguing about this ****?

I don't even see what you're arguing about. The facts are really quite simple. Apple is the more innovative company and makes better products, but Microsoft rules the world because they have better business sense, selling second-rate products for lower prices. Not really that complicated...

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Asher

I agree, and this is why Apple has a small company.

Thanks for your help.

But Apple has much better management since Steve Jobs came to the company.

Despite falling marketshare, many folks including myself feel that Apple's glory days are in the near future, but these things don't happen overnight, you know. That's why Apple hasn't seen it glory days yet, well, seen it glory days again, that is.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
Apple shrunk and MS grew AFTER Steve Jobs left Apple.

Even when Jobs was with Apple, MS grew far faster.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yep, and Microsoft was a small company which became one of the richest in the world, leaving Apple in its dust.