Apolyton Fantasy Baseball!!

[Imran Siddiqui]

I'd include WHIP, because I don't really want an IP stat in there. Just not a fan of simply rewarding more innings thrown.

Oh, I guess you want in? You didn't say

[Berzerker]

Maximum innings pitched per team:
No Minimum, 1 - 50 (I have 7 down)

What's that, Imran? If that's innings per week better to have no maximum. We better have a minimum per week though so people can't throw a bunch of closers and elite middle relievers.

The positions are okay but I'd like to go with 21 roster slots and 1 day waiver period. Last year we had 7 pitchers each week...

Stats:

Batters

Runs (R)
Hits (H)
Doubles (2B)
Home Runs (HR)
Runs Batted In (RBI)
Stolen Bases (SB)
Strikeouts (K) *
Total Bases (TB)
Batting Average (AVG)
On-base + Slugging Percentage (OPS)

Pitchers

Wins (W)
Losses (L)
Complete Games (CG) *
Shutouts (SHO) *
Saves (SV)
Strikeouts (K)
Holds (HLD)
Earned Run Average (ERA)
(Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)
Strikeouts per Walk Ratio (K/BB)
Strikeouts per Nine Innings (K/9)

The categories with the * are my lowest priorities.

[Imran Siddiqui]

What's that, Imran? If that's innings per week better to have no maximum. We better have a minimum per week though so people can't throw a bunch of closers and elite middle relievers.

Sorry, typo... I have no maximum, but I have a minimum. I must have not read it correctly when I posted.

For Roster sizes, we can submit it to a vote. Also for stats as well.

I think that K/9 and K/BB would overlap too much giving the high K guys much more points. I'd rather just put in BBs. Also I think the Pitchers should have one less catagory than the batters. Pitchers tend to dominate the league anyway, better to reduce their influence a tad.

I'd also prefer BBs to 2Bs (if we have 2Bs then why not 3Bs... all that is covered by TBs, no?).

[Lawrence of Arabia]

im strongly against nearly all calculated stats, but especially K/BB. WHIP and K/9 are just redundant if you have IP, K, and BB.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I guess the one problem I have is that I don't like IP as a Fantasy stat... but maybe it'll have to come in.. who knows what the rest of the people want .

We should be able to pick Win Shares though, dammit

[Lawrence of Arabia]

hmm cant login to league

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why, what does it tell you?

If you continue to have problems, PM me your email, and I'll send it there directly from the league page.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

says league is not in pre draft, and password is incorrect.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Lemme in, damnit

Edit: I see that Holds are a possibility for Pitching stats. Could we add those and even up the hitting and pitching categories?

[Lawrence of Arabia]

ok it worked.

[jdd2007]

I want in!

[Guynemer]

I agree re: holds.

[Berzerker]

I have no maximum, but I have a minimum

Is that what the "7" referred to? I think we had 15 or 16 minimum innings pitched/week last year and that worked quite well except for the slight scare during the all-star break. But even then we all got our minimum in... Of course, we had 7 pitching slots to use last year. If we have only 6 slots someone might lose their weekly pitching stats during all-star week.

I'd also prefer BBs to 2Bs (if we have 2Bs then why not 3Bs... all that is covered by TBs, no?).

Not enough triples per week to bother with, but I like doubles because it rewards faster runners and gap hitters who don't hit alot of homers. But if you want to add BB's to increase batting categories in addition to doubles, that's cool with me. It kind of sucks having a Barry Bonds who gets walked all the time...

LoA - I think you must have made a mistake reading the stats last year, I don't remember any problem with infinity and composite stats and I was paying attention. I suppose we could avoid composite stats, at least as much as possible. We could have Hits allowed, BB's and K's instead of WHIP, K/BB, and K/9 inn.

What do you think Imran? Should we try to avoid composite pitching stats?

I'll vote for these stats:

Runs (R)
Hits (H)
Doubles (2B)
Home Runs (HR)
Runs Batted In (RBI)
Stolen Bases (SB)
Strikeouts (K)
Walks (BB)
Total Bases (TB)
Batting Average (AVG)
On-base + Slugging Percentage (OPS)

Pitchers

Wins (W)
Losses (L)
Saves (SV)
Strikeouts (K)
Walks (BB)
Holds (HLD)
Earned Run Average (ERA)
Hits allowed
Total Bases Allowed (TB)

That's 11 batting and 9 pitching. Am I missing any good stats there?

[Soul Survivor]

Hitters
R
H
HR
RBI
TB
AVG
OPS
K

Pitchers
W
L
SV
K
BB
ERA
BAA
WHIP

I think it would be good to have an even number of pitching and hitting stats, but it doesn't matter too much to me as long as there aren't more than 16 or 17 catagories.

Also min innings pitched should probably be raised a little higher, in one week 3 or 4 relievers could easily thrown 7 innings. 15 would prevent this 'strategy' better and wouldn't really affect anyone who plays without this 'strategy'.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It kind of sucks having a Barry Bonds who gets walked all the time...

Indeed. Which is why I thought of Walks if we don't have OBP.

What do you think Imran? Should we try to avoid composite pitching stats?

I actually have no problems with composite pitching stats, as long as we don't basically duplicate those composites by our non-composite stats.

That's 11 batting and 9 pitching. Am I missing any good stats there?

Still not a fan of Doubles . 10-9 could work well. I'd rather have WHIP than Total Bases Allowed as well (that's more a function of defense than the pitcher, IMO).

I think it would be good to have an even number of pitching and hitting stats

Too much chance for ties.

Also min innings pitched should probably be raised a little higher, in one week 3 or 4 relievers could easily thrown 7 innings. 15 would prevent this 'strategy' better and wouldn't really affect anyone who plays without this 'strategy'.

You and Berz have both said this. I'm willing to increase it to 15 if there are few objections.