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  • #46
    The only question I would have then, is why is the term 'Baghdad Broadcasting Corp.' widespread?
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    • #47
      Originally posted by notyoueither
      The only question I would have then, is why is the term 'Baghdad Broadcasting Corp.' widespread?
      Pro-Saddam reporting mostly...
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Big Crunch
        I can't stand the BBC, not because of political bias, but because of arrogant up their own arses reporting.
        Yes, for the most part I agree. We started to receive BBC broadcasts on our public television stations a few years ago and I was excited about the prospect. Pretty quickly I realized that their news stories about the U.S. (for which I had a large number of alternative sources for news) were extremely biased. I was also turned off by the style of the BBC reporting which resembled British tabloid reporting, with wild lead ins to the reports (which are like headlines in a newspaper) followed by reportage which usually completely belied the lead in. Also BBC reporters are extremely combative in exactly the same way that Bill O'Reilly is combative, ie they interrupt and don't let the important person with inside information who is a guest on their program say their piece. Apparantly they already know better. There are plenty of venues in American television for the chattering classes to opine away, but I prefer my news shows to simply ask questions and moderate debates rather than take sides in them.

        I saw Kathy Kay (Washington bureau chief for the Beeb) explain how she was going to spin the news of a future event (the primaries in Iowa) to the viewers back home. Now that's preperation!

        The only thing I like about the BBC is the fact that they actually have a story about Africa from time to time. I have to assume that their bias also permeates this reportage, but as there is no real alternative in the U.S. to the BBC here, something is better than nothing.
        He's got the Midas touch.
        But he touched it too much!
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        • #49
          Originally posted by lightblue
          Fox = Sky because Murdoch tells them what to say. So if you want to be goosestepping behind some australian billionaire feel free.

          The BBC news is a bit dumbed down for me, I personally like Channel 4 here, which is probably significantly more left wing than the BBC but whose standards of reporting are significantly higher.
          Mr. Murdoch had to take out American citizenship in order to hold the variety of media outlets that he does in the United States.

          The BBC is highly regarded in Third World countries, as being one of the few media networks that actually bothers to broadcast to them and report on events in those countries, and not just when there's a picturesque natural disaster or a bloody interminable civil war. In other countries its seen as the network that will actually report on what their governments are up to- rather than promoting the latest company nepotized and corrupted to the nth degree by the sons, daughters and assorted relatives of the Great Leader, Glorious Conducator or Leaderette for life.

          Fez's view of the BBC is his own, and none the less inaccurate for that. Full marks to Fez for keeping us all entertained with the view from the pampas, however dimly perceived.

          I'm still male and gay, by the way Fez, and still not interested in you, with or without shirt on.
          Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

          ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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          • #50
            Originally posted by molly bloom
            I'm still male and gay, by the way Fez, and still not interested in you, with or without shirt on.
            First off I never said I was interested in you. The problem I had was I always thought you were female. But I don't care. You definitely display an attitude that is not worth my time.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #51
              Sorry, but I am not interested in you Fez.
              http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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              • #52
                Originally posted by monkspider
                Sorry, but I am not interested in you Fez.
                The first day I'd be interested in anybody on apolyton would be the day pigs fly.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #53
                  I agree with Sikander. A lot of the stuff is presented in a tabloid, breathless manner. But the reporters' biases and opinions also come in more than they should, and it seems like there are few editorial checks, especially on the radio programs. It doesn't surprise me that this is where the BBC got burned.

                  Quite frequently, I've read a good objective article or listened to a good objective radio piece. It's going fine -- just the facts -- until the last two or three short paragraphs where the reporters feel free to take pot shots at people or causes they don't like or editorialize to their heart's content. That really grates on my nerves, and it makes me wonder whether their reporters don't get a little somethin-somethin on the side for their views.

                  The strength of the BBC is its breadth of coverage. Personally, I don't find much value to the BBC beyond that. Further, even if I did find value beyond that, I would object to so much of my tax money being spent on it. Why is the BBC being paid to compete against established, respected news source like the FT, for instance?

                  Lastly, NPR often puts out good work, but it's incredibly left wing for the US. If my tax money were to go for that (I don't think it does, to any substantial degree), I would object. On the other hand, the Newshour with Jim Lehrer on PBS is the least biased news show available. This seems evident, because the show is respected across the political spectrum. I would object to my tax money being spent on this, but not as much as it being spent on NPR. This is so, even though I happily give to WETA, which produces the Newshour.
                  Last edited by DanS; February 15, 2004, 22:54.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #54
                    You are wrong, you are interested in many people on Apolyton.
                    http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by monkspider
                      You are wrong, you are interested in many people on Apolyton.
                      You'd wish. Go get a bloke 'cause I'm not interested. And where the heck is red-fern? Okay I'll admit it.. I am interested in one person, but it is not you. Where is my gay buddy redfern?
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #56
                        You are living in a fascist dream world. You are attracted to every last poster here.
                        http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by monkspider
                          You are living in a fascist dream world. You are attracted to every last poster here.
                          You wish.

                          So where is my buddy redfern anyways?
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #58
                            Redfern is just one one of the hundreds of men you are attracted to on Apolyton, and I willl drive a tank in the street to prove it.
                            http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                            • #59
                              Yeah, where is Redfern anyway?
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Fez


                                Pro-Saddam reporting mostly...
                                Just because it said of the european dissent? Good news is SUPPOSED to give both sides, dimwit. Then again, fascists don't believe in a free media.

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