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Originally posted by Giancarlo
This is the richest bull**** I heard all day. I already was a citizen, especially since my dad serves in the US government, to be classified under his "orders" list I have to be a US citizen. (Also means I possess a black US passport, not only a blue one)
Citizenship doesn't work that way in the U.S. You're not a natural-born citizen, that much we know. So the only way you could have become a citizen is through the naturalization process. Now, your dad isn't a U.S. citizen, obviously, or wasn't when you were born, because if he was, you wouldn't have to worry about being considered natural-born. The fact (as it may be) that he works for the U.S. government wouldn't grant him instant citizenship, either. Nor would it bestow it on you.
So when did you get your citizenship? Or are you trying to tell us the U.S. grants citizenship to foreign nationals without going through the naturalization process?
This isn't making much sense.Tutto nel mondo è burla
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Citizenship doesn't work that way in the U.S. You're not a natural-born citizen, that much we know.
Now, your dad isn't a U.S. citizen, obviously, or wasn't when you were born, because if he was, you wouldn't have to worry about being considered natural-born.
The fact (as it may be) that he works for the U.S. government wouldn't grant him instant citizenship, either. Nor would it bestow it on you.
This isn't making much sense.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
I'm not a natural born citizen, *snip*
My dad's side is Italian, however my dad was born in Hartford, CT (I DID MENTION THIS ONCE BEFORE ON THIS FORUM!). My mom took an oath granting her citizenship under naturalization processes.
Regardless, here's what doesn't mesh. You would be considered a natural-born citizen if you are:
"Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)"
Your father clearly fits the latter description, doesn't he? So you would be considered a natural-born citizen, as he was a natural-born citizen. So this contradicts the notion that you're not natural-born.
I think you need to clarify a bit more.Tutto nel mondo è burla
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Ming I'm not being offensive here, just explaining. But I will just respond to this...
Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Regardless, here's what doesn't mesh. You would be considered a natural-born citizen if you are:
"Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)"
So this contradicts the notion that you're not natural-born.
That is all I have to say on the subject because it is taking it off the topic. I do not consider myself American, but rather a mix of Italian/Spanish roots. I'm more italian then anything (after recently finding out my family in Spain is in fact italian descended).
That is all.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Then I guess I'm a natural-born citizen because my dad is one and he has lived in the US and let alone was born in the US.Tutto nel mondo è burla
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
You don't know? That seems so unlikely! How could you not know? You made a thread over the law about Arnold possibly being able to run for President thanks to a new constitutional ammendment, avering you were in the same position.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Just you. He's always been this irrational.
Then I guess I'm a natural-born citizen because my dad is one and he has lived in the US and let alone was born in the US.Stop Quoting Ben
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The election is ten months away. These numbers are meaningless. Bin Laden could be captured in October.
Honestly I won't be sad to see Bush go if the trend continues, but I fear a Kerry presidency."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005
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Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior
Yea.
Honestly I won't be sad to see Bush go if the trend continues, but I fear a Kerry presidency.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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