Kerry in Sex scandal!!!!

[Urban Ranger]

She went to Kenya? Well, that's why she couldn't return phone calls

[Mr. Harley]

Oh, people, the Big Dig money included the entire Massachusetts delegation, they were trying to get extra money for their constituency. I disagree with how this is done, but almost all of our legislative representatives do it. That is a major reason the budget is out of control.

The "Kerry had an affair" - pro-Bush people are applying a double standard. You castigate people over reporting things on Bush Jr. (guard duty), and then you post marginal data on Kerry. You want real corruption, the Harken energy deal. Come on, when he sold his stock, two months before it tanked, Bush was on the AUDIT COMMITTEE. For goodness sakes, what more do you want. Plus he sold the stock during the six month period he was required to hold it AS PER THE CONTRACT HE HAD SIGNED when his assets, so-called, were aquired by Harken. So he's broken a contract, and he does insider trading - other people had to make up the millions he didn't lose when they bought his stock not knowing it would tank. Widows, retirees, etc.

Then let's discuss Cheney's/Haliburton's contracts with Iran and Iraq in the mid-late 1990's. He contracted with regimes who murdered people wholesale. And when questioned he justifies it because it was perfectly legal, Haliburton went and organized seperate subsidiaries for it. Ethics or morals. Puh-lease. Both of these say volumes more on the so-called character issue. Admit you are making agenda-driven choices and you don't give a f*** what your guy did, and stop trying to muddy the other guy. If you had voted for a third party in protest the last several elections to protest that point, I'd respect your principles. Cut the b*** sh**, admit to being totally partisan, and admit you could care less about the morals/ethics. Just cut the hippocracy.

Also, even if it is true, Kerry's alleged affair, which is worse, that or DUI? DUI KILLS people, women, children, grandparent, etc. While Bush and Cheney got luck, Bush has one and Cheney has two. Since the AVERAGE number of times driving under the influence is approximately 200 before you are caught (multiple studies) you tell me who is more unethical. It's pure luck they didn't kill somebody during their drinking days.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by CharlesBHoff
Every senator does this as it is legal by senate rules , Kerry mightnot like it but it would be suidale to not take special interest money.

Not every Senator is so obvious when it comes to rigging legistlation to benefit a contributor while at the sametime making hay out of "standing up to special interests."

[The Mad Viking]

Originally posted by Lancer
"Guess what Lancer?

Half the married people engaging in affairs - ARE WIVES!!! "

Amazing stat! However 97% of all stats are pure BS...

Well, I forgot about the type of affair you are having with your googly-eyed co-worker...

[The Mad Viking]

Having read the last few pages of this thread, I am not sure why one would bother engaging Ned in any sort of discussion.

jimmytrick may be the same.

[Boris Godunov]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/02/16/politics1300EST0543.DTL&type=printable

A statement released Monday by Alexandra Polier, who has been the subject of rumors linking her to Sen. John Kerry:

"For the last several days I have seen Internet and tabloid rumors relating to me and Senator John Kerry. Because these stories were false, I assumed the media would ignore them. It seems that efforts to peddle these lies continue, so I feel compelled to address them. I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry, and the rumors in the press are completely false. Whoever is spreading these rumors and allegations does not know me, but should know the pain they have caused me and my family. I am in Kenya with my fiance visiting his family, and we ask that the press respect our privacy and leave all of us alone."


A statement by Terry and Donna Polier, the parents of Alexandra Polier:

"We have spoken to our daughter and the allegations that have been made regarding her are completely false and unsubstantiated. We love and support her 100 percent and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family. We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."

©2004 Associated Press

now can we move on to real news?

[Ned]

Which side went into the gutter first? Which side said Bush was a deserter with no evidence to back it up? Which side engages in defamation to muckrake?

Kerry is fair game. He defamed Dean. His party chairman defamed Bush.

Besides, the Kerry rumors begain with Clark, not the Republican camp.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned
Which side went into the gutter first?

The Republicans in 1876. It's all gone downhill since.

Which side said Bush was a deserter with no evidence to back it up?

The Boston Globe said it and nothing they've written has been refuted thus far.

Which side engages in defamation to muckrake?

Both sides do, or have you forgotten the whole Ken Starr debacle?

Kerry is fair game.

Yup.

Besides, the Kerry rumors begain with Clark, not the Republican camp.

No, they began with Drudge. There is no evidence (so far) linking them to the Clark campagin other than Drudge's word.

[Boris Godunov]

Ned, it's a real shame the hysterical lengths you'll go to in order to smear a Democrat.

Even most of your fellow Republicans have the decency to realize this affair nonsense was nothing but a sordid rumor without ANY substantiation. At least the Bush rumor (which I don't necessarily believe) has some verification in the fact that nobody can remember him showing up for duty.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
At least the Bush rumor (which I don't necessarily believe) has some verification in the fact that nobody can remember him showing up for duty.

The media reported last week that someone does remember Bush serving in Alabama. His wife also said she remembers her husband coming home and commenting on it, which is what makes me think this is a lie. It just seems like they're trying too hard.

On the other hand, the Texas Air Guardsman who say he say some of Bushes files in a trashcan in 1997 has corroaboration from a fellow solider who confirmed two years ago the story (though he won't confirm it today other than to say the first solider is honroable and does not lie).

[Ned]

BTW, the AP is now reporting denials by both the woman and her father in terms that sound like they were written by the Kerry campaign. The father, who Friday called Kerry a sleaseball, now praises him and said he intends to vote for him.

This press release reeks of a coverup.

[lightblue]

Jeez, what more do you need. Talk about being blinkered to the extent of being blind folded.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned
This press release reeks of a coverup.

Or maybe the father wasn't quoted accurately at all. We are talking British tabloids here.

[The Mad Monk]

He didn't deny the slimeball comment.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
He didn't deny the slimeball comment.

Was he asked about it?

Lesse, Associated Press vs The Telegraph, which one to believe, which one to believe?