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  • Mordoch, all that shows you is how Republicans can win in California.

    You and Boris conventiently ignore what this election was about. The California budget, taxes and jobs. Arnie de-emphasized the social issues to the point that they did not matter at all. He did not run "AS" a liberal. He ran as a pro-jobs, pro-business climate, low tax fiscal conservative.
    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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    • Of course he did. Bill Simon would have gotten slaughtered... in fact, he did. And Bush is much more like Simon than Ah-nold!
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • *ahem* take your Governator discussion elsewhere.

        As the nomination is not yet sealed up, I pose the question, if Edwards were to get it, who would/should he pick as his running mate?
        Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

        When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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        • Probably Bob Graham or Daniel Moynihan (if he wants it). Someone intelligent and experienced to take away the 'Dan Quayle' factor from him.. kinda like what Bush did with Cheney... but, of course, Bush was re-elected as Governor.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            Probably Bob Graham or Daniel Moynihan (if he wants it).
            Some how, I don't think Mr. Moynihan would be willing to rise from the dead to accept the VP slot.
            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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            • He died? Why does no one tell me these things.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • March of 2003
                Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                • Damn ex-Senators... all dying on me.

                  Next you are going to tell me Strom died (I'm kidding! I'm kidding!) .
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • He can pick Ted Kennedy.
                    Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                    When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                    • Good choice.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • Or maybe Daschle. But I don't think Daschle is interested.
                        Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                        When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                        • So no one has a definite answer to my question?
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • Originally posted by MrFun


                            I do have a question though -- do you think it's the case that a Southern Democrat has more of a chance for greater support in the Northern states, than a Northern Democrat has, in the Southern states? I was wondering about that, after reading your post. If this is the case, why??
                            When I was young the south was largely democratic but the civil rights movement cause a split in the party. You can go back and see the nasty history. As a result the south shifted and now leans to the right. Christian influence is strong here and is very pro-life, and just basically much more conservative than in the North. Northerners of all types and especially modern (liberal)Democrats are viewed with some distaste by many southerners and frankly, this will not pass for several more generations.

                            The south is more rural than the north and it is a well known fact that the Democratic party is very strong in urban American.

                            The northeast and west coast are the most liberal sections of the county. All things being even close to equal these areas are going to vote for a Democrat. Al Gore got this vote in 2000. Bush got the rest.

                            There is no reason to expect the Republican party to do better in those areas in 2004 running Bush. If Bush can win New York or California then the race is a blowout of biblical (Reagan) proportions.

                            The north has supported southern democratic candidates. LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and Gore (won the popular vote). Nominees from other sections of the county have not done very well for the democrats. Humphrey, McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis all lost, some pretty spectacularly. Kennedy won before that but he carried southern states. This was before the civil rights issue split the democratic party.

                            Actually, you can go back before then and talk about the State's Rights party in the South and all that jazz. But essentially, the north used to be Republican and the south Democratic but between Kennedy and Reagan things kinda got flipped around.

                            So, the answer to your question is that it is historically so.

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                            • How's that?

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                              • ok, thanks
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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