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  • Religionists - If Your Deity Was Proven To Be Unreal, How Would You React?

    Well how would you?

    Let us put aside the why, hows and whatfors...
    Just imagine whatever deity/cosmic order you follow and all it's attendant dogma was proven to be unreal...

    Exactly how would you react and what would you do?

    I have asked this question on fundementalist sites, and seen some scary answers.
    I am interested to see what crops up here...


    So fire away!
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  • #2
    Could you cut and paste some of these answers?

    (this question does not apply to me, so I can't answer you in any meaningful way)

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    • #3
      I have a backup religion for just that situation.
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.â€
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tripledoc
        Could you cut and paste some of these answers?

        (this question does not apply to me, so I can't answer you in any meaningful way)
        The fundies, being the craven bunch they are, have deleted my account and threads from the site in question.

        It seems the evidence of my logic victories over their dogma was too much to bear.

        The answers I recall go along the lines of:

        "I would kill myself."
        "I would get an gun and kill other people."
        "I would steal and murder, since their is no higher punishment."

        Seems these types are walking a fine line....
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        • #5
          DaShi, is there room for two in your spare religion?

          Otherwise I'd just have to go back to worshipping celebrities for the wonders that they perform and the great deeds through which they advance the human race.

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          • #6
            If you genuinely believe and have faith in that belief the deity then exists and is real in your mind. So it cannot be disproved because it exists in your reality, even if in no-one else's.

            That's a bit difficult for those who feel a need to be in with the herd and follow a mass religion, rather than a personal belief system, hence the reaction from your fundie friends.

            So I can't actually answer your question because it doesn't arise for me.
            Never give an AI an even break.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CerberusIV
              If you genuinely believe and have faith in that belief the deity then exists and is real in your mind. So it cannot be disproved because it exists in your reality, even if in no-one else's.
              I guess that's a rational way to address delusion.

              Good enough concept, for the individual.
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              • #8
                Religious belief provides a behavioural framework for the individual. Active atheism or agnosticism provide the same result and are indistinguishable from belief in a deity for all practical purposes.

                Lack of belief in anything much suggests a sufficient level of apathy to merit persecution for being useless.
                Never give an AI an even break.

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                • #9
                  Except that atheism is on firm logical ground - Occam's razor

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CerberusIV
                    Religious belief provides a behavioural framework for the individual. Active atheism or agnosticism provide the same result and are indistinguishable from belief in a deity for all practical purposes.
                    It's odd that religionists seek to bring atheism down to the level of the creed and dogma, in some kind of attempt to level their imagined 'playing field'.

                    It does not work this way.

                    It is suggested that a dictionary is employed here.
                    As atheism is an 'anti-belief, not a belief in itself.


                    Originally posted by CerberusIV Lack of belief in anything much suggests a sufficient level of apathy to merit persecution for being useless.
                    That smacks of fanatic thought.

                    I would say I am close to the rationale of believing in nothing.
                    Is there something worth believing in?

                    So, how does being unattached to the herd make one 'useless'?

                    Please explain.

                    I have achieved much in my 30 years of life, and continue to do so.
                    And I hasten to add - without any help from a sheep-herding dogmatic lifestyle.

                    And I would like to see anyone's attempts at persecution for my mindset.

                    That would be amusing.
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                    • #11
                      I would rape and pillage the countryside.

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                      • #12
                        Even the trees and haystacks?

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                        • #13
                          Kill annoying trolls that start threads that start with the Word Religionists in the title very painfully.
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                          • #14
                            Too bad for you, sir.

                            Anyone who knows me will attest that my threads are always started with an honest demeanour.

                            I leave trolling to the young, foolish and ignorant.
                            And those who are unseemingly precious about the wording of thread titles.
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                            • #15
                              Well, it's a great honor to know I am evil enough to merit an -ism. Now I have at last joined the illustrious ranks of Communism, McCarthyism, and Anachronism. Hooray.
                              Anyway, this is a pretty stupid question. God is the ultimate immeasurable quantity. To ask how we would react if we "knew" anything about him is like asking what we'd do if the sun turned into a giant apricot. Too hypothetical to bother with. With that said, I suppose I would continue living the same way I do now, but without church. I find a religious/ethical life makes me happier anyway.
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