Religionists - If Your Deity Was Proven To Be Unreal, How Would You React?

[Rogan Josh]

Oh and Occam's razor is a decidedly crappy argument because one does not know the definition of 'simpler'. Just look at fundamental physics - introducing supersymmetry for example doubles the number of particles we have, so by your criterion should be thrown out. But all string theories need supersymmetry, so if string theory is right (and it is very elegant), then supersymmetry is right too.

We are not in the position to say whether or not a universe without God is simpler or not, so we cannot use Occam's razor.

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by CerberusIV


I have a number of objections to your post, not least the assumption that I am a religionist. More to the point your thread question is inevitably about the meaning of belief, something you now wish to avoid discussing.

I do not feel inclined to pursue a debate where you are redefining parameters as you go. I believe that to be pointless.

You accuse me of back-pedalling, as you proceed do the same thing?
I am no rookie of debate, CerberusIV. I know a bail-out when I see one.

If you have a mere inkling of the English language, you can see what my thread is about.

You merely seek to drag the issue off the rails.

"How would react if it was proven there is no deities."

That is the question.

not this:

"Let's all discuss the reasons it was proven and the meaning of belief."

No matter.
Come back when you can tackle the thread question.

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Yeah. Sure. Whatever.

Indeed.

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
Oh and Occam's razor is a decidedly crappy argument because one does not know the definition of 'simpler'. Just look at fundamental physics - introducing supersymmetry for example doubles the number of particles we have, so by your criterion should be thrown out. But all string theories need supersymmetry, so if string theory is right (and it is very elegant), then supersymmetry is right too.

We are not in the position to say whether or not a universe without God is simpler or not, so we cannot use Occam's razor.

Please, Rogan!

The thread is about reactions, not proof or lack of.

[MrFun]

curt -- where are my brownies for answering your questions?

[curtsibling]

They are being loaded into a bomber as we speak!

[MrFun]

woohoo!!

[Shi Huangdi]

Free from consequences for immoral actions, I would launch a crusade to kill people who ask really stupid questions based on impossible premises.

[CerberusIV]

Originally posted by curtsibling Come back when you can tackle the thread question.

You ask a question of dubious construction and then seek to channel the responses. Go find a religious fundie to wind up.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Free from consequences for immoral actions, I would launch a crusade to kill people who ask really stupid questions based on impossible premises.

Copycat.

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Free from consequences for immoral actions, I would launch a crusade to kill people who ask really stupid questions based on impossible premises.

And like most crusades, it would end in death and dishonour.

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by CerberusIV
You ask a question of dubious construction and then seek to channel the responses.

The question's rationale is not dubious.
Only the ability of some individuals to digest the basics.

Originally posted by CerberusIV
Go find a religious fundie to wind up.

I won't have far to look.

[Cruddy]

Re: Religionists - If Your Deity Was Proven To Be Unreal, How Would You React?

Originally posted by curtsibling Religionists - If Your Deity Was Proven To Be Unreal, How Would You React?

I would do the traditional thing - I would hail the original thinker as the new Messiah and then nail them to a tree as a sacrifice to the other Gods.

Can't see many takers for the privelage on that basis.

Incidentally, blood sacrifice isn't usually part of my religion - but I'd make an exception in this case.

[curtsibling]

May I reiterate the thread focus.

It is not about the reasons why the non-existence of deities was proven.

But about reactions to the fact.

Objectivity is the buzz-word here.

Thanks.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by curtsibling
May I reiterate the thread focus.

No.