Are some people too weak to live?

[Az]

I have no intention of doing so. Breeding is a bad thing. There are too many children who need parents to be playing with genetics for fun.

[Sava]

I think humans breed too much... 6 billion people is WAYYYYY too many people. So many are only alive because advances in technology and agriculture... but without these systems, technology, or institutions, BILLIONS would not exist. The fact is, we are setting ourselves up for a massive disaster.

we need a nuclear war

[Az]

erm, without fire, tools, and writing, we'd number around a million worldwide. hey, that means that the acceptable human population is one million.

We must colonize space.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Sava
I think humans breed too much... 6 billion people is WAYYYYY too many people. So many are only alive because advances in technology and agriculture... but without these systems, technology, or institutions, BILLIONS would not exist. The fact is, we are setting ourselves up for a massive disaster.

we need a nuclear war

wrong again

people are not breeding enough. At least in the western world.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Azazel
erm, without fire, tools, and writing, we'd number around a million worldwide. hey, that means that the acceptable human population is one million.

I'd say acceptable human population is about a billion... even without technology, early human populations numbered around 200 million

We must colonize space.

sure... you know what will happen, however, our bodies will adapt to the new environments... people growing up on places like Mars, where gravity is less, will have significantly less muscle and cardiovascular developed, and would not be suited to visit places like Earth.

[Az]

without technology, early human populations numbered around 200 million

erm, no.

sure... you know what will happen, however, our bodies will adapt to the new environments... people growing up on places like Mars, where gravity is less, will have significantly less muscle and cardiovascular developed, and would not be suited to visit places like Earth.

Ok. But there will be more of us, and that's good.

[Sandman]

If the school has to be disrupted in a serious way to accomodate the kid, then forget it. Schools are educational institutions, not peanut-free environments.

[mrmitchell]

But why could this person not sue to have peanuts banned throughout the U.S.? It endangers his life.

Cars endanger my life.

Large swarms of bees endanger my life too.

As do large holes, and explosives.

Are these things all banned?

[Sava]

Originally posted by Azazel
erm, no.

if you are talking about stone age... then you are right... but post-argiculture, the population of the world (estimates) were between 100 to 250 million from 4000BC to 1000AD

[Sava]

But there will be more of us, and that's good.

why is that good? people suck... more of them = bad

[Az]

why is that good? people suck... more of them = bad

I hope you get stranded on a desert island.

[Dis]

agriculture is technology is it not?

[Az]

agriculture is technology is it not?

precisely.

[mrmitchell]

Everyone who actually agrees some people are "too weak to live" disgust me.

First off, consider that it's human life. Human life--no matter what kind--has a value to it. Just taking out the parts you don't like is inhuman; it's still murder. This thread disturbs me, so I'll go ahead and Godwinize it by reminding you how the Nazis had the whole "lives not worth living" thing.

Secondly, "weakness" is only as weak as society defines it. Today, being a vegetable is weak. 200 years in the future, who knows what could be weak? Be careful with what you're doing.

Thirdly, "weak"--disabled mentally or physically--people teach us things. They teach us that it's alright not to be perfect, or even that it's alright to be much less than normal. Amongst themselves there are exceptional exceptions that show us how incredible perserverance or hard work can make up for nature giving them a ****ty go, and they can still be prosperous citizens.

And, think about this for a minute. If you remove the "weak" people, there's still going to be a class that's weaker than the others. It will only be natural for society to adjust so that the line for "weak" moves up that much higher, and then you've got a whole 'nother class of citizens that are probably quite normal by today's standards but after the first cleansing just the bottom layer of the world.

Finally, would you like it if everyone was perfect? What would be the point?

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Not sure how much I leaned off the main topic. But the "I don't think some people are too weak to live, but I do think that some people are too weak to live" people started me off.

[mrmitchell]

why is that good? people suck... more of them = bad

Sava, go play in traffic.