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  • #31
    Why are we making people change, and not making a new non-allergenic type of peanut?
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    • #32
      Erm, that's a pretty good idea, but changing that allergy is good, since it's not only in the peanuts. ( oh, and yes, it's a very dangerous desease)
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Flubber


        I found this funny. Assuming your wheezing WAS bothersome, how does moving you back a grade help?? Wouldn'y you just be bothering some different people??
        Correct-o mundo, but logic was apparently not a prerequisite for principles in those days. It turned out that the complaints came from parents of kids who didn't even sit near me. I was not well liked by this class because of some of my views on certain controversies. Views like: "Just because President Kennedy was a Catholic doesn't make his assasination a good thing." "The Civil War was too about slavery." "Martin Luther King is not a commie just because he sticks up for black people." "I'm not a commie just because I don't believe that black people oughta be forced to have their own bathrooms, buses, and schools."
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
          One aspect of the peanut allergy problem that we could do something about is to reverse the FDA ruling allowing food manufacturers to switch vegetable oils in their products without identifying the specific oil used in the product on the label. Years ago FDA rules required manufacturers to identify each ingredient in a product specifically. If a manufqacturer wanted to change an ingredient he would have to change the label also. Manufacturers discovered that they could often change oils in their product taking advantage of the cheapest oil available without compromising the taste. They asked for and got the right to be able put on the label of their product the generic term "vegetable oils".
          A lot of products now have the label, "May contain peanuts."
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Smiley
            Why are we making people change...
            That swings both ways. Why should we force the rest of the school to change just for one or two kids?

            I have bad asthma, but did that stop the rest of the gym class from going outside in the middle of winter for the mile run? No. I just walked it a little and sat on the side.

            Besides, I thought it was a blessing.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by DaShi


              A lot of products now have the label, "May contain peanuts."
              Ya -- big help there since they stick that on pretty much everything they make. Its usually just to cover their own behinds and has nothing to do with any assessment of whether the product actually does have peanuts.
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              • #37
                "Are some people too weak to live?"

                of course but murder is illegal.
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                • #38
                  to the thread title: yes.

                  evolution has done a bang up job of weeding out the weak and letting the strong survive, "sirvival of the fittest" and all that garb. humanity and human compassion seem to work conversely to that end, and we end up saving our weak, the ones who would die off if society had not coddled them.

                  it's going to sound horrible when i say this, but we save far too many people, and make far too many accomodations for those two weak to survive on their own. i must admit that there is a line, however. for example, physically handicapped people that are at full mental capacity. in my eyes, yes they should be saved. there are various people that i personally balieve should not be saved, but i will not mention specifics because i do not wish to offend anyone here who knows / is related to anyone i would mention.

                  i find it hillarious when people use the phrase "who are you to play god?!" in movies and such, because we do it every day. why is it that we only use that phrase when someone's doing something contraversial to certain groups? for example, every medicine you can think of, especially those that save lives, are us playing god. in the wild, those people would have died, and that would be that. we made a magic pill, and we defy nature, and play god. but when someone wants to clone a sheep, "WHO ARE YOU TO PLAY GOD?".

                  i'm getting waaaay off topic, so i'll stop there.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Albert Speer
                    "Are some people too weak to live?"

                    of course but murder is illegal.
                    not if the state does it.
                    "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Flubber


                      Ya -- big help there since they stick that on pretty much everything they make. Its usually just to cover their own behinds and has nothing to do with any assessment of whether the product actually does have peanuts.
                      Still better than saying nothing about it.
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                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Thrawn05
                        Dude,
                        do not breed either.
                        I have no intention of doing so. Breeding is a bad thing. There are too many children who need parents to be playing with genetics for fun.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                          I have no intention of doing so. Breeding is a bad thing. There are too many children who need parents to be playing with genetics for fun.


                          although i'd bet your genetics are some of the better ones, people need to start realizing this.
                          "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Uber KruX


                            not if the state does it.
                            it would still be genocide.

                            Like I said, I don't support murder. I just think these kids should be sent to special schools, not public schools. I mean come on! This kid has to have a nurse follow him around in order to administer the shot in a timely manner to prevent his death. He probably can't administer the shot himself because he probably has an asthma attack at the same time he has a peanut allergic reaction.

                            But why could this person not sue to have peanuts banned throughout the U.S.? It endangers his life.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
                              I hate people who use that word...

                              Mormons really hate that word, along with "God" "Jesus" "Damn" "Hot" "Sex" "Porn" "Ungodly", amongst others.
                              Tass finally admits he's a mormon.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Dr Strangelove

                                Correct-o mundo, but logic was apparently not a prerequisite for principles in those days. It turned out that the complaints came from parents of kids who didn't even sit near me. I was not well liked by this class because of some of my views on certain controversies. Views like: "Just because President Kennedy was a Catholic doesn't make his assasination a good thing." "The Civil War was too about slavery." "Martin Luther King is not a commie just because he sticks up for black people." "I'm not a commie just because I don't believe that black people oughta be forced to have their own bathrooms, buses, and schools."
                                Wow. I know in my head that these things happened but reading your post makes it seem more eerie. Like you lived in another country.
                                I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                                I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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