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  • #31
    "random, where you been?" --campaigning for Kerry!

    "McCain has recently been in New Hampshire to Campign for President Bush." -- He's just a good soldier doing his duty. He sure doesn't seem happy about it though. I saw him on Fox and C-Span. I think he might go for it.

    As for Quayle, seems irrelevant to me. Yes, the VP used to be inconsequential (except for LBJ), but we've now had two extremely activist VPS, Gore and Cheney, and it matters a lot more now than it did then.

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    • #32
      "Yes, the VP used to be inconsequential (except for LBJ), but we've now had two extremely activist VPS, Gore and Cheney, and it matters a lot more now than it did then."

      While the VP can now matter more in terms of policymaking, it still doesn't mater in terms of people choosing who to vote for. (Unless there is a major scandal associated with the VP)
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
        Right, if the states go the same way Bush would have 278 EC votes IIRC.
        Which is why the dems do not need the the whole south-only 1 or 2 large states: if everything goes the same and florida swings, the dems win.

        As for VP, it can matter- Cheney gave Bush "gravitas", while lieberman gave Gore "integrity".
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        • #34
          The new Zogby numbers gave Kerry a huge boost (from a close race the day before). Sounds like he'll trounce Dean tonight.
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          • #35
            I still won't vote for someone who speaks to ****in' dead people and calls that a campaign.
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            • #36
              Right now the only possibility for a Democratic victory this year is Edwards. Of course a lot could happen that could hurt Bush between now and November but barring some watershed event he can't lose to the rest.

              Just research out the last 3 Democratic victories and their last three defeats.

              Edwards is the only one that can catch lightning in a bottle. Clark is out of his depth and he is the only other non-New Englander.

              Edwards is no Dan Quayle. This guy has charisma and he is sharp as a tack. Inexperienced, yes, but he is learning fast and closing the gaps quicker than an ice cream cone melts in high summer.

              If Kerry beats Dean tonight, Dean is done, and Kerry probably will. Even if Dean wins it only means Kerry deflates faster, Dean still can't win. If Edwards beats Clark and Liberman tonight, they are finished. Kerry, Dean, and Edward are likely to move on with Dean leaking like a sieve and in a two man race Edwards will only gain strenght versus Kerry. It will be close, too close to call right now.

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              • #37
                Al Sharpton is polling 15% in South Carolina. Gives one pause.

                The VP choice is really about safety. Liberman wouldn't hurt at all. But it will probably be someone that did not run in the primaries.

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                • #38
                  how about Kerry-McCain


                  Never in a million years.

                  Edwards is no Dan Quayle. This guy has charisma and he is sharp as a tack. Inexperienced, yes, but he is learning fast and closing the gaps quicker than an ice cream cone melts in high summer.


                  Karl Rove will slam Edwards on that. The one term Senator type will not play well. I can easily see a campaign saying we need someone with experience not there is a War on Terror.

                  Kerry is the best bet to beat Bush. He's smarter, is a veteran, and knows his stuff cold.
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                  • #39
                    I support it. I disagree with most democratic spending. But compared to Bush's spending.

                    You can bet I will have a Kerry-Edwards bumper sticker on my truck.

                    I can't stand Dean for some reason. I don't like far left-wingers. They are all commies . Although I do like some of the stuff I heard about his economic policies in Vermont. I heard he hasn't raised taxes, and has kept spending down. That's what I'm looking for in a president. Not some spend happy democrat or even worse. A spend happy republican like Bush.

                    We are hurting our long term future by accumulating this much debt.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      [Kerry is the best bet to beat Bush. He's smarter, is a veteran, and knows his stuff cold.
                      Rove is going to wrap Bush in an American flag and wave him all over the place. No one is going to hurt him on foreign policy unless things go really bad in Iraq. Which they could.

                      Kerry has no sizzle. He has no down home attractiveness. He doesn't inspire. He is a liberal from New England. Rove will tied Ted Kennedy around his neck and drive them off a bridge.

                      He will sleep with the fishes. Dukacarp, McGuppy, Kerryfish. You might as well resurrect Cumocrappy.

                      If you want to win with someone from New England you got to have someone who has some personality. Might as well go with DeanoMarlin. Arrrgghhh!

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                      • #41
                        Edwards was a trail lawyer, one of the favorite groups for the GOP to smear. That and his experience will be the key subjects the republicans will attack.

                        If Dean, who served 12 years a a governor is to be dismissed for lack of the "right" experience to be president, a 1 term senator?
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                        • #42
                          The democrats best hope is to completely ignore the south, outside of Florida and perhaps Tennessee, and just focus on the battleground states like Michigan, Minnesota, and so forth.

                          Edwards is not electable, he lacks experience, and has no charisma. Kerry is more electable, but not by much.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by GePap
                            Edwards was a trail lawyer, one of the favorite groups for the GOP to smear. That and his experience will be the key subjects the republicans will attack.

                            If Dean, who served 12 years a a governor is to be dismissed for lack of the "right" experience to be president, a 1 term senator?
                            Well, the point is that the election is never really settled by either end of the political spectrum or by turnout. It is who is going to be most attractive to the swing vote. Gore had some sort of slick, geek, can't trust him, phony quality and that is what killed him. Bush was the warm and fuzzy compassionate conservative.

                            Networks have to run disclaimers before Kerry ads. The following ads contains footage that may not be suitable for younger audiences. He is a scary looking guy. He polls 39% versus Bush in November, tops.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by jimmytrick
                              Networks have to run disclaimers before Kerry ads. The following ads contains footage that may not be suitable for younger audiences. He is a scary looking guy. He polls 39% versus Bush in November, tops.
                              Last newsweek poll out there had him beating bush 49-47%.
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                              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GePap


                                Last newsweek poll out there had him beating bush 49-47%.
                                Okay, let us say you are right GePap. Lets assume Kerry gets a narrow win in the popular vote.

                                Find me a historical example of a close race won by a democrat who did not do well in the South.

                                The democratic party has to have a good run in the South or, you have to have a landslide.

                                Does anyone around here really think John Kerry can beat George Bush in a landslide?

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