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  • #16
    besides, this country has a long history of keeping my kind out because of our foreignness. not to mention the yellow perils that crop up about once a decade...
    B♭3

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Q Cubed
      except, see, my grandparents didn't enslave any of the blacks. i wasn't given anything that was stolen. why should i be punished?
      Mine neither. They was too poor.
      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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      • #18
        my family first put roots in american in 1979, four years before i was born in america. before then, not one of us had crossed the pacific.

        the costs of mother's education and residency were entirely paid for by the family's money and by her own sweat.

        why should she--and by extension, me--suffer for something we didn't do?
        B♭3

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        • #19
          There is no contradiction. Estate taxes are meant to curb the inheritance of extravagent wealth. Before the repeal, only estates of over $1 million for single people or $2 million for married couples were taxed. That's not the kind of money people would get out of any reparation plan I've ever heard of.
          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
          -Bokonon

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
            No I actually think its a "State should not be grabbing the inheritance" thread.
            Oh for Christ's sake. The inheritance tax in the US is weak as it is.

            One reason there is an inheritance tax is to prevent the formation of a new virtual aristocracy based on inherited wealth. In an economy which is aimed at encouraging people to work hard in order to benefit everyone (at least that's the rationale) allowing people to gain large sums of money by doing nothing subverts that system of rewards.

            Such taxes face their own problems, one being that it is a disincentive to save; but it's not, as knuckle-dragging repugnicans put it "just an excuse to steal from the dead".


            And Q3, why is it that all of your political opinions seem to boil down to "I don't want to pay anything"?
            Only feebs vote.

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            • #21
              Simmer down red boy.

              I was simply correcting your assumption that this was a racist thread.

              Now go discuss like a good boy.
              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Q Cubed
                my family first put roots in american in 1979, four years before i was born in america. before then, not one of us had crossed the pacific.

                the costs of mother's education and residency were entirely paid for by the family's money and by her own sweat.

                why should she--and by extension, me--suffer for something we didn't do?
                Cry me a river.

                The reason is that the state, as an abstract entity, has to pay the reparations. The state is responsible for the acts of its previous stewards just as a company is still responsible for its contracts if it is sold to new owners.

                Of course many Americans can't stand the idea of reparations because those negroes might get uppity if they get some money.

                But hell, let them work their way out of it like all Americans are supposed to. That would be great if only for the fact that a black guy with no criminal record is less likely to get a job interview than a white felon.
                Only feebs vote.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe

                  I was simply correcting your assumption that this was a racist thread.
                  It might as well be. A pack of honkies complaining about how bad they have it and how they can't possibly pay a cent more in tax to help the black folks they claim not to hate.
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ramo
                    There is no contradiction. Estate taxes are meant to curb the inheritance of extravagent wealth. Before the repeal, only estates of over $1 million for single people or $2 million for married couples were taxed. That's not the kind of money people would get out of any reparation plan I've ever heard of.
                    Yes, and yet most Americans are under the impression that they will be victimised by this "death tax". Are they just plain vanilla stupid or "I'm one of the 20% of Americans who claim to be in the top 1% of earners" stupid.

                    Frankly we need to institute a new order of beadles to go around beating thick skulls.
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Agathon


                      honkies
                      Where does this term come from. Do white people honk too much?
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Agathon
                        Of course many Americans can't stand the idea of reparations because those negroes might get uppity if they get some money.
                        You're wierd. I love the "People the disagree with me are racist" line your taking. Reminds me of Fez somewhat.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          You're wierd. I love the "People the disagree with me are racist" line your taking. Reminds me of Fez somewhat.
                          And in the entire time I've posted here, you have not made one interesting or original comment in defense of your prejudices.
                          Only feebs vote.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kidicious

                            Where does this term come from. Do white people honk too much?
                            Apparently. We are supposed to sound funny when we talk.
                            Only feebs vote.

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                            • #29
                              Too bad for Agathon that making fiscal reparations to the folks who deserve it will be fundamentally impossible. First, you have to discern which African-Americans are descendant from slaves and which aren't--we can't be giving money to folks whose ancestors weren't oppressed, can we? What about mixed people...do they only get half as much? Do we allot their shares based on the percentage of blackness? I mean, some guy may look like a honkey to you, but he could be 1/16th black. So can he get a share?

                              Of course, the spectacle of wealthy blacks getting government checks would be amusing. Just can't wait to see what Don King does with his share, or J.C. Watts.

                              Or we could just settle for the radical notion that reparations should be made in the form of making sure there is real equality of opportunity and an end to racism in the U.S., instead of dishing out money and breeding a good deal more resentment from the rest of the country's citizens.
                              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Agathon


                                Apparently. We are supposed to sound funny when we talk.
                                Oh. I was thinking it had something to do with honky-tonk.
                                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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