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  • #91
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    Oh, and I have to agree with the Funboy here... che has been a total ***** to Mr Fun, just because he believes something different and actually happens to be a moderate Dem.
    While I agree I have been a royal ***** to MrFun for the last month and a half, it's not because he believes differently from me.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #92
      That's what it seems like to a lot of us here.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #93
        No, what I'm getting on his case about is not being critical of the media. If Apolytoners are good at anything, it's going bbeyond the simple media and getting deeper. Like I said, I'd respect his stance more if he said he didn't like Dean's positions. Instead he's attacking media strawmen.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • #94
          I do not believe everything the media presents!!

          Geez -- you have seen my thread about education in Iraq and how I noted that they failed to bring up some important questions, right??

          I make an effort to watch the media with critical eyes and ears.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by chegitz guevara


            Yes, but the criticism of him started well before he was front runner. (Although a case could be made that he became the front-runner because of it.) Furthermore, unless all candidates are treated equally, it would be giving a false impression that there's nothing wrong with the other candidates, just Dean.

            Let me try to get what your saying by asking two simple questions. And the same could be asked to anyone else that cares to answer. Do you think that the press is out to get Dean? And if you do, do you think it's because of any other reason that he is the front runner?
            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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            • #96
              I'm getting on his case about is not being critical of the media.


              Just because he isn't as critical as you (who thinks the media is in a vast conspiracy to make sure Republicans win ), is no justification.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #97
                Originally posted by GePap


                And where on earth sis you hear that bit of election gossip?Kerry will be lucky to get 3rd in Iowa. If anyone other than Dean will win, its Gephard.
                Kerry has the momentum right now, while Gephardt is remaining stable and Dean has probably already peaked:

                DES MOINES, Iowa — Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, a year ago as close as the Democratic presidential nomination race had to a front-runner, is now narrowly back on top of the eight candidates, at least in Iowa, according to the latest polling.


                Momentum grows for Kerry in Iowa caucuses


                By Stephen Dinan
                THE WASHINGTON TIMES



                DES MOINES, Iowa — Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, a year ago as close as the Democratic presidential nomination race had to a front-runner, is now narrowly back on top of the eight candidates, at least in Iowa, according to the latest polling.
                The Zogby-Reuters-MSNBC poll released yesterday showed Mr. Kerry with 21.6 percent support among likely caucusgoers. That led former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean and Rep. Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri, both of whom have 20.9 percent, and Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who had 17.1 percent support.
                The poll of 502 persons, taken Monday through Wednesday and with a 4.5 percentage-point margin of error, also found that more than 10 percent of caucusgoers are still undecided — about half what it had been in recent weeks, but still a big number with just four days until the first binding contest for the Democratic nomination.
                "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  I'm getting on his case about is not being critical of the media.


                  Just because he isn't as critical as you (who thinks the media is in a vast conspiracy to make sure Republicans win ), is no justification.
                  I suppose even though I am capable of critical viewing of the media, I will never be as perfect as Chegitz.




                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                    I think all the candidates should face the same level of scrutiny. If only one is getting tough scrutiny, then in effect, it's a media endoresment of the others.
                    Yes, indeed. I know I want to see more scrutiny of Al Sharpton, Kucinich and Braun to help me clearly decide if I want to vote for them.

                    What the media reports on is largely dependant on what viewers are interested in, what they can dig up and what can create the biggest news story. It's not suprising that the limelight will shine on the front runner.
                    "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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                    • Well forget Braun... she dropped out. But we need more on Sharpton and Kucinich
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        Well forget Braun... she dropped out. But we need more on Sharpton and Kucinich
                        And Twain!
                        "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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                        • BTW Imran -- I still can't believe that you and I both like Kerry as a candidate.
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • Originally posted by GePap

                            Of course, that annalysis does not fit into a coy soundbite, so it will fall by the wayside.
                            Hey GePap, is this your analysis? I found it over by the wayside.
                            He's got the Midas touch.
                            But he touched it too much!
                            Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                            • Originally posted by chegitz guevara

                              Say Fun, since you are so good at regurgitating RNC talking points, why not end the pretence and form a branch of the Log Cabin Republicans.
                              He'd probably get more action, but would it be worth it?
                              He's got the Midas touch.
                              But he touched it too much!
                              Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                              • Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                                I think all the candidates should face the same level of scrutiny. If only one is getting tough scrutiny, then in effect, it's a media endoresment of the others.
                                Are you kidding? We'd be so busy laughing at the positions of Kucinich and Mosley Braun that we'd forget that it wasn't the latest hit comedy and pay no attention to the issues.
                                He's got the Midas touch.
                                But he touched it too much!
                                Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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