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  • #46
    And look at this latest Windows innovation!!!!





    It will probably go the way of that Dock impersonator, but get it while you can.
    Only feebs vote.

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    • #47
      I don't understand your point -- is it that the Windows API is obviously more flexible than you give it credit for, or is it that the much-heralded "features" of OS X are available on Windows as well?
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • #48
        ALEX!!! THEY'RE AT IT AGAIN!!! GET THE POPCORN!!!
        What?

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        • #49
          Hp's Ipod. Big deal. Hp is a follower simply making sure Dell doesn't take the market. Hp apparently was flat footed and needed a product thus the marriage between Apple and Hp.

          As the battle unfolds you can be guaranteed Hp will be placing pressure on Apple to lower the stinkin price.

          Bah. Hp shoulda been better than this.
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          • #50
            Expose lifted things that Windows has had for years (minimize all, restore all), and added a feature that shrinks all Windows so you can click on them.

            That's somewhat nifty, but it's not nearly as useful in the Windows world. Windows users have the benefit of a taskbar with textual labels explaining the title of each Window, something that Apple has yet to do. That made Expose rather necessary on their platform, I don't know how long they did with it. It's still rather useless eyecandy in the face of the titles-on-the-taskbar system on Windows.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Richelieu
              ALEX!!! THEY'RE AT IT AGAIN!!! GET THE POPCORN!!!
              No they aren't. I have no idea of what A****t said since I can't read his posts although I can pretty much guess what they say.

              I posted the stuff because other people might want to talk about it.
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #52
                /me munches
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                  Hp's Ipod. Big deal. Hp is a follower simply making sure Dell doesn't take the market. Hp apparently was flat footed and needed a product thus the marriage between Apple and Hp.

                  As the battle unfolds you can be guaranteed Hp will be placing pressure on Apple to lower the stinkin price.

                  Bah. Hp shoulda been better than this.
                  Yup. HP and Dell are both going gung-ho on the "consumer electronics" market. Dell went to Creative and licensed the Nomad technology, and gave birth to the Dell Digital Jukebox.

                  HP was caught by surprise, and Apple was more than willing to make them iPods they could rebrand since it would expand the userbase for iTunes purchases...

                  At least Dell changed the design somewhat, rather than being literally the same thing.

                  This move speaks volumes about HP's stupidity and how desperate they are, the people who seem to think HP chose Apple because it's better are somewhat naive and don't understand the market very well.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Agathon
                    No they aren't. I have no idea of what A****t said since I can't read his posts although I can pretty much guess what they say.

                    I posted the stuff because other people might want to talk about it.
                    Another typical tactic by someone who supposedly knows how to debate -- rather than get your ass owned, ignore whoever says contrary things. Ignorance is bliss.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                      Hp's Ipod. Big deal. Hp is a follower simply making sure Dell doesn't take the market. Hp apparently was flat footed and needed a product thus the marriage between Apple and Hp.
                      Dell won't take the market. The ipod absolutely owns the HD player market. The rest combined only account for 19% of the market. As for selling downloads, the iTMS has a 70% market share.

                      HP is just running with the winner. They'll make money and won't have to do much.

                      As the battle unfolds you can be guaranteed Hp will be placing pressure on Apple to lower the stinkin price.
                      I certainly hope they do. The latest rumour is that a 2 Gig ipod is next. That will probably retail for about 200 bucks. The HD for these came out the other day.

                      Expect a price reduction of 50 bucks on all models after the initial buying rush. Once the HDs get cheaper it shouldn't be long.
                      Only feebs vote.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Agathon
                        Dell won't take the market. The ipod absolutely owns the HD player market. The rest combined only account for 19% of the market. As for selling downloads, the iTMS has a 70% market share.
                        You paint a tainted picture.


                        NPD Techworld reports that Apple is No. 5 in the MP3 player market in January 2003 with 6.1% of unit sales, behind RIO (18.8%), RCA (12.7%), Samsung (7.8%), and Creative Labs (6.9%), respectively.
                        HP is just running with the winner. They'll make money and won't have to do much.
                        HP was caught unprepared by Dell's move, and Apple was the only company willing to let them use their design wholesale. Creative's already got a contract with Dell.

                        I certainly hope they do. The latest rumour is that a 2 Gig ipod is next. That will probably retail for about 200 bucks. The HD for these came out the other day.
                        That's bull****, and would be stupid of Apple to do. You can get a 1.5GB Flash-based player (solid state, no moving parts) for the same price right now. Siginificantly smaller than even the iPod Minis.

                        Expect a price reduction of 50 bucks on all models after the initial buying rush. Once the HDs get cheaper it shouldn't be long.
                        Nonsense, Apple's never done this before so I'd doubt they would now. And from the reaction I've heard, there won't be a buying rush for a $249 4GB player in gay colors.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Agathon
                          Dell won't take the market. The ipod absolutely owns the HD player market. The rest combined only account for 19% of the market. As for selling downloads, the iTMS has a 70% market share.
                          Dell just started in October 2003 with their portable. There was no chance of penetrating the market that fast. This year's figures might tell a better story.

                          HP is just running with the winner. They'll make money and won't have to do much.

                          For their sake, they'd better. HP's been losing terrain on both the consumer and corporate market.

                          The latest rumour is that a 2 Gig ipod is next. That will probably retail for about 200 bucks.



                          Apple 2 GB player: US$200
                          Dell 15 GB player: US$224

                          Tough choice

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Zopperoni

                            Apple 2 GB player: US$200
                            Dell 15 GB player: US$224

                            Tough choice
                            The Dell DJ did OK in October and November. It was the next one down from the ipod.

                            The only problem is that it looks horrible and its software sucks.
                            Only feebs vote.

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                            • #59
                              Can somebody ask Agathon for links to these statistics he's pulling out of his oversized ass?

                              If you ask me, BTW, I think the new iPod Minis look far worse than the Dell DJs. And I don't think the software can such as much as iTunes...
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                              • #60
                                You know that mini ipod is a lot smaller than dells
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