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  • Dopes are suing to ban "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City"

    Suit seeks to ban sales of popular video game

    WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (AP) --A lawsuit by Haitian groups that asks for the top-selling video game "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" to be removed from store shelves will be decided in federal court.

    Haitian civil rights groups filed the lawsuit because the game instructs players to "kill the Haitians" and awards points for each kill.

    The suit was filed December 23 in state circuit court in Palm Beach County. Attorneys for Rockstar Games Inc. opted to move the case to federal court, and that motion was granted Tuesday. No hearing dates were immediately set.

    New York-based Rockstar Games has agreed to remove the offensive line from future versions of the award-winning video game that has sold 11 million copies.

    But the Haitian organizations, led by the Haitian-American Coalition of Palm Beach County, have also asked for more than $15,000 in damages.

    The lawsuit takes on heavyweights in the video game industry, including Rockstar Games, its parent company Take-Two Interactive Software Inc., Sony Computer Entertainment, the Microsoft Corp., and retailers Target, Wal-Mart and Best Buy.

    The manufacturer of the game, in which an ex-convict is hired to recover stolen drug money in the streets of Miami, has been harshly criticized for its portrayal of Haitians.

    Earlier this month, about 100 Haitian-Americans demonstrated outside a Wal-Mart Supercenter in nearby Boynton Beach chanting, "Stop Vice City."

    Attorneys for the Haitian organizations and the video game manufacturer did not return phone calls late Wednesday.
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/fun.games/01/01/videogame.suit.ap/index.html

    what a bunch of morons...

    how about these Haitians worry about IMPROVING HAITI instead of bashing a video game... and they are suing for $15,000 for "damages"

    okay... WHAT DAMAGES?!

    I'm glad the US isn't a banning censorship country like New Zealand...
    To us, it is the BEAST.

  • #2
    The fact this has even gotten a court date shows why we need tort reform. Why can't judges just toss such suits out with a laugh or a fine for wasting the court's time? Oh well, that's what happens when "hate speech" becomes a matter for the authorities...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Berzerker
      The fact this has even gotten a court date shows why we need tort reform. Why can't judges just toss such suits out with a laugh or a fine for wasting the court's time? Oh well, that's what happens when "hate speech" becomes a matter for the authorities...
      if there is such a reform that can be done without jeaporadizing the rights of citizens with "legitimate" complaints against companies to sue... then I'm for it... but unfortunately, most tort reforms are sponsored by corrupt, corporate-whore politicians seeking to dismantle the public's ability to hold big business accountable for it's immoral and destructive practices.
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        I can understand where they're coming from. If the game said "Kill the Jews", it would never make it to any shelf.

        However, I'm not sure exactly what damages there may be...
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        • #5
          Re: Dopes are suing to ban "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City"

          Originally posted by Sava
          :

          how about these Haitians worry about IMPROVING HAITI instead of bashing a video game...
          Erh, maybe cause they are Haitian Americans who live in Miami, not in Haiti?

          We dont have group libel in the US, and its hard to see this case going anywhere, but I'll be damned if I would buy a game that says "kill Haitians" Basically i agree with Emp Fab
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          • #6
            I'll be damned if I would buy a game that says "kill Haitians"
            Yes, the game is totally about being racist and just killing Haitians for fun . I mean really, you should educate yourself about the context of that quote.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #7
              I'll have to remember the sensitivities of Greeks the next time I send my war elephants to trample them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
                I can understand where they're coming from. If the game said "Kill the Jews", it would never make it to any shelf.
                I think it would, easily. In any country that doesn't have rampant censorship, anyways. Certainly not in germany, for instance.
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                • #9
                  And then I'll play an ode for the Germans sent to Valhalla by my legions.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Osweld
                    I think it would, easily. In any country that doesn't have rampant censorship, anyways. Certainly not in germany, for instance.
                    I don't think it would arrive on the shelves in any western European country + Israel. And I think the Jewish community will remove the game from the shelves pretty quickly in the US or Canada.
                    That leaves countries who haven't experienced the nazi terror, nor have a structurated Jewish community. I guess Muslim countries would let the game on the shelves without any problems
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                    • #11
                      And I think the Jewish community will remove the game from the shelves pretty quickly in the US or Canada.


                      They'd TRY, but probably wouldn't succeed in getting it pulled off.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #12
                        There are a ton of movies and books that say such things which aren't banned. And I'm sure you could find that phrase somwhere, in some game.

                        I guess it depends on how popular it is, however...
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                        • #13
                          Re: Re: Dopes are suing to ban "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City"

                          Originally posted by lord of the mark
                          Erh, maybe cause they are Haitian Americans who live in Miami, not in Haiti?
                          what does that have to do with anything? can't they send money back? or join an activist group to help the country? oh no... all they do is ***** and moan about a video game and a benign comment.
                          We dont have group libel in the US, and its hard to see this case going anywhere, but I'll be damned if I would buy a game that says "kill Haitians" Basically i agree with Emp Fab
                          Imran is right... you should educate yourself about the context of the quote.

                          Plus, people don't object to being able to play as Nazi soldiers in games like Day of Defeat and Battlefield 1942... I think that is "worse" than being a criminal and being told to kill gang members in an ethnic gang. What if in GTA:VC you are told to kill the Russian Mob? or the Italian Mafia?
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            What's the point of banning games in these days of rampant piracy and warez downloading?

                            You got a problem with a game, you mod it to rectify it!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Smiley
                              What's the point of banning games in these days of rampant piracy and warez downloading?

                              You got a problem with a game, you mod it to rectify it!
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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